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| Quote: Tigerade "Does your club come first and the game second ? It does for me. No Castleford Tigers - no RL for me. There ought to be a poll on this.'"
My club comes first, however I do believe in fair play.
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| We have to look after ourselves first and foremost because nobody else will. They'll be plenty ready to stab us in the back given half a chance. Look after number one.
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| Let’s have a bit of reality , if the choice is between selling and survival ,then lets getting selling , its happened many times before and we are still about with a chance of competing , at least we will be masters of our own destiny , we would soon learn if our coach is a good one after all , recruitment/ replacement would be the key ,as someone else posted we need a squad with a sprinkling of Nigel Bells and Johnny Ts (, WAKEFIELDS OWN ) in it. With no room for anyone who is not up to the fight (I think we will be left with a few)
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| Quote: victarmeldrew "Let’s have a bit of reality , if the choice is between selling and survival ,then lets getting selling , its happened many times before and we are still about with a chance of competing , at least we will be masters of our own destiny , we would soon learn if our coach is a good one after all , recruitment/ replacement would be the key ,as someone else posted we need a squad with a sprinkling of Nigel Bells and Johnny Ts (, WAKEFIELDS OWN ) in it. With no room for anyone who is not up to the fight (I think we will be left with a few)'"
So, in my reality
If we had any Nigel Bells or Johnny Thompsons, wouldn't they already be playing?
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| You'll never get it will you pop tart ,over the last few years there's been loads of Nigel bells and johnny ts trouble is Wakefield have never signed them , don't ask me to name em ,they've been named on here plenty and I'm tired of trying to educate you just one local lad Adam gledhill,twice the player the young kid we've signed unlike you and plenty more on here I've seen them both once in opposition no contest ,oh yes pop tart bellys and johnny ts are about
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| [You'll never get it will you pop tart ,over the last few years there's been loads of Nigel bells and johnny ts trouble is Wakefield have never signed them , don't ask me to name em ,they've been named on here plenty and I'm tired of trying to educate you just one local lad Adam gledhill,twice the player the young kid we've signed unlike you and plenty more on here I've seen them both once in opposition no contest ,oh yes pop tart bellys and johnny ts are about'" ]
I dont doubt you know more about the young kids than I do.
But people through Belly and Johnny's names around like they are the same as anyone else who is 'Wakefield through and through'
That isn't all they were. Belly in particular was a quality player. Possibly one of the best of his type.
Just being a young kid from Wakefield doesn't make you that.
If you know another like him then great. I wish he was playing for us now.
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| Quote: Wildthing "My club comes first, however I do believe in fair play.'"
Is the way I see it too.
MC's trying to clear the debts to ensure we still have a club. The level at which the club plays should be decided on the field. The amount of support we get, especially now, will go a long way to determining the level at which we play at. I realise that the whole thing is more complicated than that, but ultimately, that's what it boils down to.
If we voted on principle to open the leagues up again through P&R, then fair play to us and the other club who voted for the same.
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| Quote: PopTart "I dont doubt you know more about the young kids than I do.
But people through Belly and Johnny's names around like they are the same as anyone else who is 'Wakefield through and through'
That isn't all they were. Belly in particular was a quality player. Possibly one of the best of his type.
Just being a young kid from Wakefield doesn't make you that.
If you know another like him then great. I wish he was playing for us now.'"
I think the point is that we didn't give the young players the chance they deserved when we could have done. That's what SL franchising was supposed to be all about.
We didn't take the chance because there were so many other issues that were clouding the picture for us, like the need for a new stadium and the other factors involved in scoring more franchise points to keep us in there. With hindsight, this has worked massively to our disadvantage. But it would have been a brave man at the time who tried to do what pretty much all other RL clubs were doing (I exclude the likes of Wigan and Leeds from this).
There's no guarantee that any kid who shows potential at 18 or 19 will make it to the highest level, but I think try scorer's nonetheless right that in many ways, we failed them.
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| Quote: RebelRebel "Is the way I see it too.
MC's trying to clear the debts to ensure we still have a club. The level at which the club plays should be decided on the field. The amount of support we get, especially now, will go a long way to determining the level at which we play at. I realise that the whole thing is more complicated than that, but ultimately, that's what it boils down to.
If we voted on principle to open the leagues up again through P&R, then fair play to us and the other club who voted for the same.'"
As usual rebel a fair balanced view.
I could also go along with that but of all the times for it to happen next season is the worst possible scenario.
Last season yes, the season after next yes. But its one hell of a time to be fighting for our lives when MC is trying his best to put right the massive car crash left by Glover and Elston.
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| Quote: El Rey "Championship here we come then.'"
Ive fetched my tin hat in advance here but you're correct, and it'll be after a truely embarasing season on the field.
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| If Adam Gledhill is so good then why hasn't there been a big queue of clubs after his signature now he has returned from oz? I remember people banging on about his brother after we let him go too, he's now playing for Sale seconds at rugby union.
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| Quote: Uptoncat "If Adam Gledhill is so good then why hasn't there been a big queue of clubs after his signature now he has returned from oz? I remember people banging on about his brother after we let him go too, he's now playing for Sale seconds at rugby union.'"
He had that one good game remember.....
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| Let us remember that the RL plan also included increases in the number of non federation trained players a club can sign and a reduction to only 10 under 18 teams.
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| Quote: BelleVueLifer "Ive fetched my tin hat in advance here but you're correct, and it'll be after a truely embarasing season on the field.'"
depends how you define embarassing!!
if 17 young men go on the field each week and give of their best, both individually and as a team... then there is no embarassment!
And I, for one will applaud their efforts... even if it is 13000 miles away.
I have watched Wakefield teams get relegated, and some did their best and I was proud of them.
ps its time for the club to stop bleating in the press... If we need to offload, whoever it is, get on with it, regroup with the new sqaud, and go into battle.
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| Two quick points on your reply Upton Adam gledhill is a far better player and a much bigger build than his brother ,and I don't think we jumped any ques to get our lad
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