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I agree Agent XIII it is bound to happen as those in the know on the forum say it will. Pity MC is not in the know.

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If only MC had come in a lot sooner things would not have got to this stage but here we are and its out in the open.As for the dolls all I can say is £400 is one expense we can do with out at the moment.Why not have some local dance troops take it in turns to do it and hand them £50 thats £4550 for the season not a lot but every little and all that.

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I'd say either go without or have a good team. No £50 kids play time.

I think the dolls do a lot more for the club than just rah rah cheer leading.
I think we've got bigger fish than this to worry about.

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Quote: Agent XIII "You said it "you don't know" other than MC nobody on here does but that doesn't stop them pontificating about everything Wakefield related.
I still have not heard of any new investment now Elstons gone but its early I expect by Monday they will have come forward after all some on the forum said it would happen.'"



Nice sidestep.

Back to the Dolls, i suppose like Poptarts suggested we have bigger fish to fry so we'll see.

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So we get rid of the dolls and then we'll all have a moan about lack of funds from the ht draw because we haven't sold any tickets.
Some folk need to shake their heads and realise when they are well off.

The dolls are a definite positive for the club, not everything that has happened over the last 2-3 years has been bad.

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and there is the community aspect, they are the public face for involving females in sport, health etc and hopefully them becoming fans.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "So we get rid of the dolls and then we'll all have a moan about lack of funds from the ht draw because we haven't sold any tickets.'"


Ask for volunteers to sell them, seeing as we're in a mood of getting volunteers to do stuff? That's what other clubs do.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Ask for volunteers to sell them, seeing as we're in a mood of getting volunteers to do stuff? That's what other clubs do.'"


Yeah coz there are literally 100's of people willing to do this for nothing, let alone WTW, get a grip, we are struggling to get volunteer collectors for 1873 so we're not likely to have people smashing down the door for this.
IMHO the Dolls add to match day experience, do valuable work in the community, do a good job of promoting WTW when they are on other assignments and as 2 previous posters have suggested we have bigger fish to fry icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "Yeah coz there are literally 100's of people willing to do this for nothing, let alone WTW, get a grip, we are struggling to get volunteer collectors for 1873 so we're not likely to have people smashing down the door for this.
IMHO the Dolls add to match day experience, do valuable work in the community, do a good job of promoting WTW when they are on other assignments and as 2 previous posters have suggested we have bigger fish to fry
Give them free entry, like programme sellers get? Just throwing an idea out there.

Still not convinced that the work on other assignments brings anything into the club, certainly not revenue!

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The Dolls do loads of work in the community, including getting women and girls into physical activity (dance, exercise, touch rugby etc) - they're also part of the match-day experience and a very positive part of the brand.

Whilst I appreciate the general annoyance with the Elston situation, it would be daft to throw the baby out with the bath-water; appearance fees are a perfectly reasonable expectation and much more sensible than having them all on the books.

Plus, if I can't swoon over Jade, I aint coming no more.

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If the Dolls were the only problem Wakefield Trinity had at the moment then I would breath a massive sigh of relief. However we all know that is not so. The Dolls are an integral part of the whole WTW match day setup. The girls look the part and I am no dance expert but they look good to me. If you went to a boxing match and there was no young lady with legs right up to her behind strutting her stuff between rounds then I for one would feel a bit miffed because it is part of the experience. Keep the dolls and Daddy Cool and think about adding to the game day to attract more fans because there are different kinds of fans, those that would go to the game if all you got was the game with huge silences at the beginning and at half time. However there are other fans that want to have some fun as well and to some the game is secondary IE the groups of people who are engrossed in conversation the whole game and only look up if someone scores but they still pay there way into the ground.

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Quote: bren2k "The Dolls do loads of work in the community, including getting women and girls into physical activity (dance, exercise, touch rugby etc) - they're also part of the match-day experience and a very positive part of the brand.

Whilst I appreciate the general annoyance with the Elston situation, it would be daft to throw the baby out with the bath-water; appearance fees are a perfectly reasonable expectation and much more sensible than having them all on the books.

Plus, if I can't swoon over Jade, I aint coming no more.'"


Some folk can only see the price and not the cost (or benefit in this case)
Before everyone started getting on Elstons back over our predicament and certain perceived signings, I would guess that at least 9/10 fans saw the Dolls as a very positive thing for the club and an excellent way of attracting families and girls to attend matches but, some folk don't want families at games ??

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MC used the expression the Ridings Shop was closing ( before they made him a better deal) , because it wasn’t in business terms wiping its own face, so I presume that applies to every aspect of the club , including the dolls

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Quote: RebelRebel "IIRC, the figure quoted was around 400 quid per game. I know it seems quite a bit for a cash-strapped club, but if you assume the girls actually get paid something to perform, plus insurance costs, etc., what's left over, if anything, will hardly be enough to line that retirement nest.

In fact, by carrying the name of the club and presenting a positive image of it on other engagements beyond match days, they probably offer pretty good value.

Personally, I don't think you can beat a good brass band at half time, but I accept that younger members of the Wakefield Trinity family may have different views on the matter. £400 a game...no wonder we went bust yet again. Not good value fo money for me at all. It is not a fortune but is symptomatic of the lack of care with small resources. One small symptom of a bigger problem. We would have had equal value from free children or local lasses happy to do it for nowt or far less, doing this, and far more family friendly.

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No mention of Trin.'"

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