Indeed, a win vs Widnes plus one of the two Leeds games would leave us on 21 points and realistically targeting 2 out of 3 wins from Saints, Bradford and Cas at home. Cant see us getting much change at the McAlpine or the HJ.

Would 25 points be enough? Last year we would have finished 9th with that.

Lets not kid ourselves here, FC were pretty awful and we weren't much better skill wise - BUT we never gave in and showed some terrific determination and effort when we went behind in the 2nd half to rescue the game and nick a win that we probably on balanced deserved.

Massive performance from Kirkmond and Amor among others and our big game players stood up when it counted.

Unlucky with the decision on the try with the Ellis offload/knock on, but equally fortunate with the Poor decision that he should have walked for. We've been in these scrappy, low quality affairs many, many times and I suppose all that matters at this point is the 2 points that could have easily slipped away.

I believe they call it "winning ugly", and sometimes you need to do that to have any chance of getting into the play offs - all the better teams do it.

Effort is all the fans generally want from their side and that was there for all to see last night and that effort carried us through.

Well done lads.

Well done Wakey,fantastic result.Good to see Foxy scoring against that lot aswell.

I couldn't disagree more.

What is it with Wakey fans (and I'm just as bad) but why do we always put ourselves and the games we play in down. We don't need to Eddie and Stevo will do that for us.

Collis pass to Fox, Smith 40/20, Smith kick and Fox take, Mathers pass and Amors break, Kirmonds chase all sublime RL and as good as any team can do.

Some games for some reason produce a high error count but it's not always a lack of skill - last night Hulls defence was tough if a little patchy was the reason for me.

Last night you witnessed a lot of skill with some top notch tries on offer - rejoice

I don't really know how many games we will end up winning but Hudds away is not one that worries me. We seem to have ended the voodoo and the games between us recently have been close affairs. We know half their players because they used to play for us and they are no better than our present squad.

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Hmm, we've proven we can match them (or anyone tbh) at BV, we will really need to be at the races to get anything if they keep up this form that has seen them dispose of Leeds and Catlans so easily.

We must be super cautious and not complacent against Widnes, their last 5 games scored 36 (lost) 32 (won) 28 (lost) 32 (lost) and 32 again (drew).
So 160 points in last 5, a banana skin game which we could easily slip up in.

Widnes are poor in defence, good in attack. Sound familiar?

Need a good attitude to beat em.

Hudds (A) not sure but is it week after cc final,anyone care to join in a quiet chant of Fartown?
Hard to do I know but for the greater good.....

I'd look to batter Widnes early doors with brutal defence and simple 5 drives rugby; then make a couple of interchanges after 20 mins or so, and start to get creative.

They can't defend for toffee and I don't think they have the muscle to stand up to Poore, Amor, Aiton & Kirmo, particularly not if the can recreate what they did at Hull.