we need a prop and a stand off and we sign another backrow forward could be a good signing looks like big Frankie is on his way another whose face does not fit with Agar Frankie will never be a world beater but has had limited opportunity under Agar

At least three good posters have laid down massive clues as to whats wrong with Frankie. Come on folks read the whole thread and read between the lines

our website says come through wigan system ,one that was beaten three times by our 18s the year they won the title .this kid stood out so much that having watched all academy games cant think who he is . looking forward to see if he makes an impression on me now but talking about mariano as a former a coach, a second rower what 6 3 or 4 with plenty of pace would be a dream come true and to think i couldnt do owt with akid early or mid 20s who posseses these talents id look on myself as a bit of a failure

We don't know the full situation to be honest, I think we can be pretty certain that lack of ability isn't the reason he's not getting anywhere near the first team. Whatever the reason is, I'm still happy to accept Agar's decision in the matter.

So is Agar a poor coach now because he couldn't make Mariano better?
I wonder how we got him when we had no money. Surely being such a world beater he would have been snapped up?

The point is he is a very good runner of the ball but he does go missing sometimes so maybe wants someone with more all round skills. Either way Agar knows how he responds better than any of us so I'll stick with what he decides.
We've had this discussion many times and the kids who leaves has never made us regret it.

Is anyone regretting replacing Gledhill being replaced by Raleigh?

What if its Mellars that leaves and is replaced by another second rower but opens up a spot for an overseas/non fed trained halfback or prop to come in thereby not reducing the squad numbers but increasing the options.

Would make sense, Mellars has sort of sprung to life in the last few games, putting himself in the shop window perhaps?

no one ever said marino was a world beater ,said the raw materials were there and heh we dont know wether hes for the push, im saying this new signings failed a medical at salford ,dont expect you to take my word for it but having watched academy rugby for th last 3 seasons never come across this kid and think somwhere along the line id have seen or been told about him

Mariano hardly "goes missing" any more than any other player and when he plays i'd say he's the main line-breaking threat among the forwards. Think it would be a mistake to let him go and sign a guy who has hardly played because of two bad injuries. Infact, it makes zilch sense.

We will never know the full story; it's safe to assume however that if he was the world-beating prospect that some of the armchair head coaches on here would have you believe, he'd either be playing every week for us, have been signed up by a top 4 side or would be one of the players rumoured to be off to Aus. Since none of those are the case, there must be another reason that he's not a first team regular.

I'm a little confused by the signing IMHO. We need a prop and another player who can play 6 or 13 to put pressure on Sykes/Washbrook. We have lots of back rowers now unless Mariano or Mellars are going? Likely to be Mellars due to form and size of contract.

Can Molloy play 13?

Why did Salford let him go as soon as Noble arrive?

A failed medical? Yet he is playing for wakefield at weekend.... Makes sense.