Sam Tomkins has to be the biggest coward in super league. Did everything he could to keep his shirt clean and the sky team still kept mentioning him. Well done to fev, just shows that aggressive defense will stop even the best sides from wanting to play rugby. As for hock, i saw him spit and that is bang out of order. spitting is disgusting and he deserves a ban

Everyone saw Hock spit but for me you couldn't tell whether he was just spitting or if it was directed at Dickens. I'd have thought more would have come about it at the time had he actually spat at Dickens, probably just didn't look good on TV.

He followed it up with a few choice words aimed at Dickens, the man he just spat at.

Yes but did he actually spit at him? I very much doubt it as it is considered the worst thing to do to an opponentby many in the game. I'm pretty sure Stu would have levelled him if he thought Hock had aimed his spit directly at him, plus it was right in front oif the ref and I don't think even Hock is that stupid. The bloke is an excellent player and very aggressive but I doubt you'd find many players in the game at any level who would spit at an opponent, its simply disgusting.

So am i but if Stu had turned away he probably would not know.

True but you won't find many with Hocks history of stupidity will you.

Twice in that game you can clearly lip read him throwing foul abuse, now i use those terms at work BUT i don't work in front of a SKY camera, he represents the game of RL and yet again imo he lets it down.

Just watched it again. Hock does not spit at dickens, he gobs prior to the scrum then has a few choice words.

Pathetic thread.

Used to see similar witch hunts against Newton on here.......until he signed for you.

You would say that wouldn't you, seems to me that you'll see what you want to see.

Newton was very similar in his attitude and it did not change when he signed for us, we are not all club blinkered.

Unlike the original poster I see what happened. He dos not spit at a player.

Hock is an enforcer, you take the dirty side out of his game you would not have as effective a player.

oh, an enforcer like ryan bailey is supposed to be according to mcdermott. so thats ok then. i don't suppose you ever criticise bailey's actions, or do you.

So gouging,spitting etc makes him a more effective player does it?

what a right load of hes a cheap shot thug just like Newton was

Clint Eastwood

Enforcer my backside - he's a thug who I'm sure, in time, will repay the faith Wigan showed in him by losing his cool and doing something stupid - again.