How did Trout get on?

Plumbing the depths comes to mind.

Look on the bright side. This time next week our season could be over.

I take back what i said about Wood not being a half back. He was far more lively than John who was shunted into the centres by the looks. Wildie must not be far off a shot also. John is not the player i thought he was going to be.

In a way it's pity it's Easter and we have to rotate the squad because I'd want the players to know they're dropped for the next match because that's what it needs.
This is going to happen time ad time again if we don't get a prop or two in, zero go forward by the pack today.

Probably not the place to comment, but the north stand 'gamble' did not pay off.

Agreed I'll not be going north again, ashamed to be a wakey fan had to keep one eye on the drunken morons and one on the game. Stewards handled it well tho had to laugh when young Cas lad kissed his shirt at heads and was promptly ejected Ta Ta

TRB, it seems I owe you a sincere apology after witnessing yet another inept display from this current crop of players, I have to agree with you that the desire of most of them is simply not there. The forwards bar aiton and lauititi make no ground at all. Neither half back takes the line on and the kicking game is appalling. Then there is vince mellars who frankly has been poor for almost all of the season. Enough is enough now, there needs to be some big changes not just for the Wigan game either. The likes of walshaw, Ellis, wildie and mariano need to be given a few games to show their worth.

The defence is soft and so is the attack, no aggression whatsoever. This years side have twice the ability of last years squad, but it appears only half the heart

I stand by what I said in the first few game up to and including Catalans, there was plenty there to be positive about but I agree with everything you've said. These last couple of game have been a real eye opener, the team seem to have some how gone backwards even compared to our first game of the season. Much to do to turn this around.

Changes will be made but only because of the fixture pile up otherwise i doubt they would.

Tbh those who get a run out at Wigan won't have to do much to deserve to keep there places, but I agree with u, agar appears to have his favourites and they will most likely continue to be picked. He has stuck with the majority of them after London and it failed miserably, he needs to start earning his brass now, cos the last two games have shown some very worrying trends.

Completely agree.

Time for a shake up in the forwards - James, Walshaw, Trout, Mariano, Ellis time to stake a claim - tackle & run hard all match & you will get that starting spot.

1.Which forwards need to move over that is the question?
2. What do the stats say? Who is dropping off tackles and not making the yardage?
3. Have we got too many forwards carrying knocks/injuries to suddenly go completely off the boil & let teams roll us back up onto our own try line too easily?
4.Are those near to or over 30 past it? We got rid of Korkidas at 30 and then signed Wilkes and Lauititi at 32 and Raleigh at 29?
5. Is Southern up to it?

Wigan 2nd team will be rubbing their hands for Monday and Leeds will walk not run over us next Friday!

This is a real challenge to R.A.'s coaching ability and time for him to make some tough coaching decisions otherwise it will not be a 1 year stay with WTW never mind a 3 year one!

Said else where he doesn't have a choice now but I'd be telling any of the guys coming in, perform and you've got the spot, the team desperately needs a shake up. To me it looks like quite a few have got a bit complacent about things, add to that we're desperate for more go forward from the pack. I know it's easier said than done but AG is going to have to put his hand in his pocket.

...And buy another coach.