Whilst I like the look of this side, I would be a little concerned with Walshaw opposite Atkins. Following his progress in the reserves I believe his lack of positional sense could leave him exposed. I agree Walshaw is big and strong and if Atkins is stupid enough to run straight at Walshaw I would back Walshaw every time, but he is not and Atkins has developed well as a centre and has good feet before collision which I (IMO) could cause Walshaw problems (I hope I would be wrong if he did play opposite him though).

I would also like to see young Slater thrown in the mix of players, in the reserves he is showing that he has a big engine with good defensive attributes. We are scoring points but unfortunately we are letting more in and thats got to stop. Slater has good tackle technique from initial contact to controlling the tackle to ground slowing down the PTB.

Overall I think we as supporters need to be patient with this team, there is too much talent for it not to eventually click. Dont forget we have had as many new faces as Widnes yet everyone seems to be giving them time to develop. Once they get used to each others style of play, I am sure we will be seeing some great results.

It would be nice though to pick up a few wins along the way though and send us home happy and that not just being from the beer

We can field who we like, we won't beat Wire at their place when they are fresh from a loss, and let's face it, not many teams would. For me, it's the home game against Catalan, and the London and Cas games where we should be hoping to pick up points. If we come out of Easter without a win, and that is possible if we blow the Cas game (because what do you bet that London start to come good), it is looking very grim for us.

I can live with the fact that things aren't gelling yet, but what is frustrating is that the problems are what we have been saying all along: no grunt up front and no goal kicker. That comes down to bad recruitment. What worries me is that some of the teams around us have started to show some form over a few games, and all we have shown is a good second half at Widnes.

atkins is big and strong, and gets many more chances at warrington than he did at wakefield once we lost solomona. i was really dissapointed with him against leeds at the weekend, he seems easy to steer towards the touchline, from where he usually flings the ball in field wildly.

Wait until he starts to make an interchange 2 mins before the half finishes, that used to really wind me as much as his interchanges used to puzzle the whole crowd.

As for giving returning players a run out in the U20's, not a chance they will go straight back in as long as they are Agar's friends 17.

Feel for you fans, I really do.

For the prop I think signing up Dowes would have been a decent move. Seems Agar preferred to mess him about for some reason, though.

As baffling as it all is, and as unpopular as he is just for being here really, one thing is unquestionable.
We are playing pretty good, entertaining rugby, some of it is dumb rugby but thats down to the players trying to take too big a risk at the wrong time or the result of a unforced error.
So we aren't on the Black and White Bandwaggon yet!!!!

Give it time.

Seriously though, a fair few Hull fans (myself included) went through the 'it's the players' fault' stage (and I'm not for one minute saying they were/are completely absolved from any blame). When you see different groups of players with the same faults over a longer term, and also see what some of the players do under different coaches, however, the key common denominator becomes more apparent.

Agar stated on Yorkshire Radio last week that they were looking for a proven goal kicker to sign and looking at options to bring in a prop (Richard Moore ). So fingers crossed as WTW need to start winning games whatever the diehard fans say and there is a lack of depth to the squad of players ready for week in week out super league covering those 2 roles so I don't think it would be a waste of money.

On the positive side - Amor is back and with Raleigh should start.

In the meantime I think AGAR has to show his worth as a coach and give an opportunity to a young squad member who can goal kick goals and look at finding them an appropriate position in the team. If Walshaw is not a centre then Cockayne to replace Mellars and Grayshon to wing? Agar would be praised for giving youth an opportunity and trying to temporarily solve the serious lack of a goal kicker.

There is nothing to lose against a team like Warrington and it would be good preparation for the other games we have more of a chance of winning. Also rest players that are carrying knocks and blood other squad players (Walshaw,Mariano,Ellis,James) as well, thats done in other sports to good effect.

I dont want Richard either. I know he had illness etc to deal with but he was a shadow of his earlier self for us.

Interesting post gotta laugh at some of the comments relating to Isaac john, 3 superb long passes to Cockayne to create three tries , give the bloke a break looks a quality signing

I don't mean anything as a cheap shot. I also think he was given plenty of time at Hull to do better, but simply didn't, and he wasn't treated unfairly by most. Neither do I think that him being a success for you would make most of us look stupid or require us to eat humble pie, as it wouldn't change what he did with us nor make what he did do any more successful. Sometimes coaches just don't work out for a club, and it may be that that was the case for him and us, or he may just have learnt enough from it to do a better job for you. I for one won't feel silly if he impresses for you, just as I won't take any satisfaction if he fails. I was just offering some observations of my experience of an Agar team and how they would appear to compare to some of your fans' impressions so far.