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Quote: vastman "If I were a geek I'd love PC's, trust me I was and remain a reluctant user of this technology - my life was way better and wealthier when it was film, pen and scalpel!

I like Macs because non geeks like me can use them successfully JUST - so I'm afraid on this one Bren old boy you're a million miles off the mark.'"


I started out with a ZX81 and have owned every conceivable personal computer since then, with the exception of a Mac; I spent the 90's building and modifying my own PC's as a 'power gamer,' constantly striving to get the best sound, graphics and processing speeds out of my Frankenstein's machines; at one point, as an Everquest addict, I was squeezing so much juice out of two heavily modded towers that I had to run them with the cases off and an array of desk fans in strategic places, to prevent overheating.

I'm as geeky as they come, or at least I was, so no slight intended with that comment really; just a lighthearted observation about the PC vs Mac argument; it's been exercising tech geeks for decades and looks set to continue unabated.

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the only problem i've had with the mac is that vastman has tried to face time me.

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Quote: bren2k "I started out with a ZX81 and have owned every conceivable personal computer since then, with the exception of a Mac; I spent the 90's building and modifying my own PC's as a 'power gamer,' constantly striving to get the best sound, graphics and processing speeds out of my Frankenstein's machines; at one point, as an Everquest addict, I was squeezing so much juice out of two heavily modded towers that I had to run them with the cases off and an array of desk fans in strategic places, to prevent overheating.

I'm as geeky as they come, or at least I was, so no slight intended with that comment really; just a lighthearted observation about the PC vs Mac argument; it's been exercising tech geeks for decades and looks set to continue unabated.'"


I didn't feel sighted, just needed to correct you - I only love Apple stuff because it works and the simplicity of the Mac was enough to keep me in a job when it went digital and even then it was a close run thing. I have real reason the be thankful to Steve Jobs, he's kept a roof over my head icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: fat faced fan "the only problem i've had with the mac is that vastman has tried to face time me.'"


As if I know what that even means icon_lol.gif

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Quote: vastman "I have real reason the be thankful to Steve Jobs, he's kept a roof over my head
He changed the world, several times over, and kept a roof over lots of people's heads in the process, no doubt about that.

The geeks have truly inherited the earth.

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Quote: vastman "Probably the silliest statement I've ever read within one of the poorer posts - I really can't believe that you actually believe this and it's just a wind up. Still opinions and all that.

I'm not anti PC they have there place just, but never in the last 20 years have Microsoft or the jerry built clones they run it on ever been ahead of Apple or even close, even Bill Gates would concede that.

As for tightly controlled - this would be the same Microsoft who were taken to the Supreme Court and told to release it's iron grip on browser software for Window which Gates and Co fought all the way because the greedy pigs clearly hadn't fleeced folk enough with his second rate crud already!

As for being lazy, it just shows how folk like you clearly mis the point. Most people don't have the time or inclination to mess about as you suggest with OS systems, they simply want something that works and will pay for it. Until Microsoft along with the manufacturers continue to produce stuff that doesn't do what it promises Apple will continue to prosper.'"



What have microsoft got to do with hardware? Do you know what hardware is?
Let me educate you.
An imac - For your £1,649 you get a core i5 3.1ghz, 4gb of mid range ram, 1TB HDD and a 6970HD radeon. PATHETIC!
I could build a PC with a better spec for half that.
Still if you want to buy over priced crap that comes in a pretty box go for it. d040.gif

How the hell can you say apple have always been in front for the last 20 years? What planet are you on? Mac only started using intel in 2006! Before that they were stupidly underpowered and a laughing stock. And as for the fabulous apple and their creations, why do ipods use USB and not firewire? eusa_think.gif

You are very narrow minded when it comes to software. There is more to life than an OS. IF the software does exist for mac the chances are it will cost a fortune. That's if your lucky. The number of times someone I work with hasn't been able to do work because they have a mac and the software doesn't exist for it is laughable.

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Quote: bren2k "He changed the world, several times over, and kept a roof over lots of people's heads in the process, no doubt about that.'"


Good for him. What a guy...

www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... contractor

The continuing reports of deaths and distress at Foxconn have created a PR problem for Apple, which is seen as the principal user of the company's facilities.
Quote: bren2k "He changed the world, several times over, and kept a roof over lots of people's heads in the process, no doubt about that.'"


Good for him. What a guy...

www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... contractor

The continuing reports of deaths and distress at Foxconn have created a PR problem for Apple, which is seen as the principal user of the company's facilities.


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All I can say is that I am writing this on an iMac, which is pretty powerful, and I am in a room with no other sounds. And all is silent. No fans. Just silence.

I have no issues with PC's, and in some respects I find them easier to use. I understand how they work better and am probably more adept at sorting out problems with them. But the silence is beautiful. My last PC was pretty powerful, and my wife's hairdryer was quieter.

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Quote: who needs flankers? "What have microsoft got to do with hardware? Do you know what hardware is?
Let me educate you.
An imac - For your £1,649 you get a core i5 3.1ghz, 4gb of mid range ram, 1TB HDD and a 6970HD radeon. PATHETIC!
I could build a PC with a better spec for half that.
Still if you want to buy over priced crap that comes in a pretty box go for it.
You are using the same words as me but to you they seem to have a completely different meaning than to the rest of humanity. This is always the case I find with PC types.

Not to much point carrying in this debate because you are clearly wrong but will never accept t but I will pull you up on one point if I may...

"An imac - For your £1,649 you get a core i5 3.1ghz, 4gb of mid range ram, 1TB HDD and a 6970HD radeon. PATHETIC!
I could build a PC with a better spec for half that."

Well no you couldn't.

1: It wouldn't be a mac it would be a collection of second rate bit's held together by gaffer tape and wires - rather than a one piece wonder c020.gif

2: It wouldn't have OSX on it, it would have Windows which is in every way inferior. icon_lol.gif

3: You would have to build it, something Apple have always done for me as part of the deal a046.gif

4: Only someone who takes their opinion too seriously would describe the worlds most popular personal computer as PATHETIC c015.gif

5: Whilst you could build a PC for half that price I can visit the Apple shop and buy an imac for a bit over half the price you are claiming (£999 + vat) - which shows to me that you just don't and probably never will get this Apple thing. The thing being that Apple supply a computer that works straight out of the box without you having to do anything more than PLUG IT IN icon_beat.gif

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Quote: vastman "You are using the same words as me but to you they seem to have a completely different meaning than to the rest of humanity. This is always the case I find with PC types.

Not to much point carrying in this debate because you are clearly wrong but will never accept t but I will pull you up on one point if I may...

"An imac - For your £1,649 you get a core i5 3.1ghz, 4gb of mid range ram, 1TB HDD and a 6970HD radeon. PATHETIC!
I could build a PC with a better spec for half that."

Well no you couldn't.

1: It wouldn't be a mac it would be a collection of second rate bit's held together by gaffer tape and wires - rather than a one piece wonder
Amen brother.

I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand. Leave us mac boys to it while they are shutting down and rebooting or uninstalling and reinstalling......

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if you wanna pay more money for less spec, got ripped off on repairs and parts, have a smaller array of compatible software and generally be more restricted in what you can do...then go for the mac. But on the bright side, you will be down with the cool mac kids icon_wink.gif

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I would have bet money 'mouth' was a mac user...

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You can run OSX on a PC if you really want.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "You can run OSX on a PC if you really want.'"


Yeah, but you wouldn't icon_biggrin.gif

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