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Murph is a good player - and that's all. If he wants away, let him go - as long the deal is seen as being good for us.

The difference between now and BG (Before Glover) is that we CAN afford to tell them to stuff it if we don't agree with the deal. In the BG days we were under pressure to cash in. It's a simple but significant difference, but it still doesn't mean that we should waste money paying players who really don't want to be here.

He's history - just the announcement to come!

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I really like Murphy but if he wants to go then he wants to go.

The question, like TRB says is: Is the deal appealling to Wakefield overall?

As discussed above it is debatable how good the players are that are being offered so that means it is not good enough. We shouldn't take players that might be ok. We should be taking players that are better than what we have.
Mason or Crabtree would be fine, one of that back line would too, but of course that probably isn't going to happen.
BUT we shouldn't go for squad players either.

Lets have the cash and spend elsewhere if that's the best deal, or better players, or no move....which ever is best for Wakefield, not just the Giants, and not just Murphy

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Although Raleigh is a squad player for the Giants most Giants fans would have him in the 17. Defensively he is a 30 to 40 tackles a game player with a good work ethic.

From what i hear you are effectively getting a 3 players for one swap as most of you would swap Tommy Lee for a water botle.

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Quote: PopTart "I really like Murphy but if he wants to go then he wants to go.

The question, like TRB says is

Totally agree - we need a big prop and a SH; if they're not offering either of those, it should be a cash deal or nothing, regardless of what Smurph wants.

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Quote: Durham Giant "Although Raleigh is a squad player for the Giants most Giants fans would have him in the 17. Defensively he is a 30 to 40 tackles a game player with a good work ethic.

From what i hear you are effectively getting a 3 players for one swap as most of you would swap Tommy Lee for a water bottle.'"



I wouldn't, there is always the risk you could ask for the bottle back in a reverse swap.

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Danny Brough for Murphy and Lee and if they dont like it then beggar off

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I'd be pushing for

Murphy and Lee for Mason, Kirmond .. That's a prop we need there and Kirmond to interchange.

Would be a good deal for both.

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I'd be pushing for Murphy is not for sale

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Quote: charlie "I'd be pushing for Murphy is not for sale'"


Was thinking about Murphy. He is good but not ripping it up. His strength is defence really.

If we can get a decent deal then so be it.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "Its a bad deal for Trin Vastman is happy about this deal as he is used to shopping at Jack Fultons ! Infact this is a ted richardson deal! If you think this is a good deal Vasty you need your head testing !'"
iknow sometimes you are a bit off the wal mate but i think broadly you have got this one right. the player you already have has far more potential than what they are offering. danny is a good player and a great bloke. kyle you don't need and andy raleigh , although i don't know him , you have already got better players than him at the club who would do a better job . in all don't think it is a good deal for wakey.just looks like hudds having a clear out.

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Quote: MR BROWN "iknow sometimes you are a bit off the wal mate but i think broadly you have got this one right. the player you already have has far more potential than what they are offering. danny is a good player and a great bloke. kyle you don't need and andy raleigh , although i don't know him , you have already got better players than him at the club who would do a better job . in all don't think it is a good deal for wakey.just looks like hudds having a clear out.'"


I think you are seriously over egging Murphy as a player.

For me the biggest issue here is not what we are getting out of it but what are Hudds getting. I can't see where he fits in their plans at all. For us he is a very good player but for them he's an average signing.

The reason I want to keep Murphy is to make a stand. So that when the next really great player like a Gareth Ellis comes along people will think twice. Murphy the player I can take or leave in fact IMO George was a bigger loss.

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Quote: vastman "I think you are seriously over egging Murphy as a player.
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And under egging Raleigh.

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Quote: Trojan Horse "Was thinking about Murphy. He is good but not ripping it up. His strength is defence really.

If we can get a decent deal then so be it.'"


Most of his career with us he's had to defend, the ability he's shown on the front foot has been quite good, in a better attacking team like we will have next season will prove if he's got what it takes or not.

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Murphys three tries (one of which was against donny) in 22 appearances this season is testament to his lack of attacking spark. Yes we've been on the back foot for a lot of the season but George, Dean, Morton etc all crossed the line more than him. But he is defensively sound, has always given 100% and has improvement in him. IF the deal is right then i'm happy for him to go. But it has to be a good deal FOR US.

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He (Murphy) scored some cracking tries when he played on the wing. Hull KR away springs to mind when he went down the touchline and fended about 3 defenders off.

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