www.therfl.co.uk/licensing/licensing_faqs Clubs are assessed on criteria in 5 key areas: a. Commercial, Marketing, Media and Community. b. Facilities. c. Finance. d. Governance and Business Management. e. Playing Strength and Player Performance Strategy

www.therfl.co.uk/licensing/licensing_faqs Clubs are assessed on criteria in 5 key areas: a. Commercial, Marketing, Media and Community. b. Facilities. c. Finance. d. Governance and Business Management. e. Playing Strength and Player Performance Strategy

So quins aren't going out because the RFL's objective is to have 2 SL clubs in the future...

And crusaders aren't going out cos they owe the RFL 700k... the RFL wont get it back anyway but there even less likely to get it back with crusaders in NL1... even though their not a sustainable model based on crowds and will prob go bust anyway..

Joke...

That's not what it says at all.

As apposed to our fantastic business model that left us "only" in administration?

rlhttps://www.londonrl.com/rl - This shows the kind of expansion that actually is going on in the London area, there are a lot more NEW clubs that have been set up in the last ten years, which WILL have been helped by the fact there is a pro team in the area (level not too important). But that does not necessarily mean that those clubs would not have set up if there wasn't a pro team there either. See the SW or Midlands for similar development, I certainly know enough about the Midlands to be able to comment on that.

As for the 'local' people round here saying that we have lots of amateur clubs round here too, yes that is true, and at a lot better standard too, BUT London is playing catch up so their development is good for the game, but its bottom up rather than top down which is more the case in the heartlands I would suggest - its a different scenario.

I think it would be a good move to get a web portal of some kind to link up amateur clubs in our area too. By modernising the way our amateur clubs are publicised and getting true written and actual pathways set up with Wakey will certainly assist our regional development. There are certainly lessons that we can learn from their region. Another point being that if we are doing the same as them, they can't be given higher gradings for us!

What always bugs me when the RFL come out with these ridiculous statements is the obvious double standards!! Club A in Yorkshire "Your attendences are poor that will count against you come franchises time....Club B in Wales/London/Timbuctoo... It doesnt matter about your attendences are going down year on year, your doing a good job, don't worry about applying for a franchise we will give you some more money you will be fine..."
IT MAKES YOU SICK!!!

What he said.

This is not an argument against Quins being in SL, it's an argument against treating the rest of us like idiots and forcing hundreds of man hours of work being put into a franchise application, that won't even be considered. Not to mention all the other costly hoops that clubs are forced to jump through, making a SL club totally unsustainable without a sugar daddy investor.

a. Commercial, Marketing, Media and Community. - IMO we win this one
b. Facilities. - You'd have to give this to all 3 expansion clubs over ours (based on Belle Vue)
c. Finance. - Crusaders in admin but emerged with still massive debts, London bailed out time and again and unsustainable without Sugar Daddy, Catalans I'm not sure about. Depends on the focus on past performance and future performance - going forward we look to be able to beat at least 2 of the 3
d. Governance and Business Management. - Again depends on bias between past and future performance, going forward again i would say we look to be in the best position
e. Playing Strength and Player Performance Strategy - Andrew Glovers claim to be able to spend full salary cap underlines how our playing strength could improve, past 2 seasons we have finished 5th then 11th (average 8th place), good junior teams, plenty of youngsters coming through (not necessarily all by choice but still there)


Where we will lose out is the other factor that the RFL have put in to make sure they can do whatever they want, which saysa. Extent to which each club helps meet the SLE Strategy and the strategic aims and objectives of the Licensing process;
b. Historical activity of the clubs under consideration; and
c. RFL’s reasonable opinion as to future performance of the clubs under consideration.

Point a) in that list is the one that will kill us more than anything else IMO

Where have the RFL said that about attendences? Or did you just make it up?

so you expect the RFL to judge us and our liscense application on what Andrew Glover "says" rather than how the club has conducted itself over the previous/current period? Whilst I realise Glover does seem to be going about his business in a very efficient manner and from top to bottom things seem to be improving no end, he is as yet largely unproven. You say others relying on a Sugar Daddy is a negative (despite the London geezer putting his hand in his pocket year after year and proving his commitment) but then go to imply that us being able to spend the full cap due to Glover is a positive for us?

I think the fact that we have been given a warning about our stadium (and lack of plan B) when we were awared our place and being in basically the same position, for whatever reason, 3 years down the line and also our terrible mismanagement over the last 2 years or so are the things that will kill us more than any 'bias' or underhand tactics by the RFL.

On finance, if your business model is crap but you have a rich sugar daddy as long as said daddy doesn't leave it's as good as being Wigan and Leeds because they'll never be skint or (not a dig) go into administration.

Maybe you should re-post the criteior in bold and in a 36pt font.

And can someone, not based on hearsay, prove where the RFL 'bailed out' London or was it that the clubs democratically voted to allow a new company take them over when they went into administration.

It cant be if they`re getting poor attendences. Higher profile more people, so the profile of the game cant be high in London village.

So you meet the so called criteria and this says basically so what, we'll have who we want in. What a sport