Widnes deserve the Franchise IMO.

Imo the can't get out of it and they will chuck someone out, they can't do anything else, backed themselves into a corner and that will cost someone a Franchise, it will get very messy but it will happen.

Well heres the solution, promote widnes to a 15 team superleague. have the magic weekend with the champions (thatll be Cas obviously ) rested that week in build up to the wcc game.

Or just chuck it all in and go back to p&r

Its interesting that this topic is being discussed on the Wakey site given it would appear you are one of the clubs in dangers

I spoke to David Hughes after the Quins v Hull game-During the previous week he had held a meeting with Woods from the RFL about the RFL assisting Quins - not providing finacial baccking/support. At the moment Hughes is the 35% owner of the club with Lennegan at Wigan holding the remaining shares(majority)- One of the things he was asking the RFL to assist him with was the sourcing of a backer to buy into the club-ie take over IL shares
I asked him if we were buying any players- His response and this is not fabricated, was not at the moment but there is a belief some players will fall out of the Wakey and cas trees as they are in dire straights financially-followed by, as are Salford(I know they have just spent heavilly) and the Crusaders-he mentioned that all those clubs had been in talks with the RFL!!

Having said all of that he said he will not continue to put in the levels of money he currently is

And just how would he come by that information, if clubs have spoken to the RFL then surely that informations behind closed doors or did they just happen to mention it to Mr Hughes.

Any ideas?

Its being discussed all over the joint if you care to look. The hard facts are . the rfl will do anything for expansion clubs and the rest can go to hell.
The tennis loving freak that is in charge must be removed and Rugby League people put in place before he kills the game completely.
Are they helping Whitehaven ?????? Are they

Its a disgrace and the quins should be made to survive on their own like the rest (crus excepted but thats another disgrace )

Dire straights financially? No idea, but not a season goes by without a rival supporter claiming such a thing.

I don't think its a secret that Trinity sail close to the wind financially, mainly due to not having a rich benefactor and a having small fan base.

Quins had the former, unfortunately he is now unwilling or unable to support the club in the manner he had been doing therefore reality is biting.

There is no doubt our fan base will grow with the new ground. HAving said in a previous thread the fans increased but then we put our stadium prices up and brought some 3rd rate players in to replace the good players we had built up. IS there any wonder why we don't increase.

Take it or leave it- I have no gripe with Wakey or any other club Im just repeating what the chairman said to me, one to one.

Lets see what happens.

Which chairman?
Wigan, Quins, RfL?

I don't know how relevant this is to the discussion, but I have a close relative that is conducting a marketing campaign on behalf of the RFL for next year and all the current SL clubs are involved with this except one. Can you guess who the missing club is?
If you answered Quins you would be wrong. If you answered Wakefield you would be right!

Except we'll be there for next year. The rumourn would have been so much better had you said the campaign was for 2012, or that it included Widnes too.

haha.... epic rumour fail!

According to this link,the rumour is that John Kear strongly tipped for taking over at Quins
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As apposed to it starting in 1895 in Wakefield.

Makes me laugh this, now I am not saying we should go or London should stay - but we are in no position to comment on them in my opinion. Them in glass houses and all that.

They have a handfull of homegrown players playing for them (LMS, Clubb, Sharpe) and another few have broken in to the squad this year and look hopefull. Crowds are clearly a problem for them and they underacheive in this area, but given our lack of attendences even in our relatively 'succesfull' seasons we aren't in a position to poke fun.

And the most important thing of all in my opinion is that if they aren't in the league then you really think the funding from Sky in its current form would continue at the same level? Like it or not if we want to keep getting our hands on the big Sky divvy at the start of every year then we need them in the competition and there is no argument to that. Fair enough, if we were Wire or Hudds and had the Sugar Daddy to pump several hundred thousand in a year we could absorb the innevitable drop in Sky money, we might even be able to handle it if we had the attendences of Leeds, Wigan or Hull FC - but we dont. Despite 100+ years in the league we are almost completely reliant on Sky money (I reckon) and to lose London would innevitably reduce our income and put our club even further behind the rest, or more likely out of business.

If you took a vote of the owners or Celtic, Salford, Hull KR and Cas then it would be pretty much guaranteed they would vote to keep London in the league, if they didnt it would be turkeys voting for Christmas.

I agree that having London in the league does mena more sky money, however if we were relagated to the championship at the expence of quins then we would loose out far more than if the sky money was reduced so i would rather stay in super league on reduced sky money thaen drop into the championship.