FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Gonna upset you (TRB n Al) but the M word |
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| It's all about sky maximisiting it's marketing. The bigger geographic spread it has gives it more advertising and sponsorship opportunities, also greater customer spread, on the back of crusaders they sold boxes in the south Wales area.
If there was no London club, there would be no game as we know it, SL is only sustainable via sky's involvement, where would clubs like Wakefield generate the income to pay current wages being paid? We struggle to generate income as it is, compare SL to The Scottish Premier League during/after the collapse of itv's sposorship, until a rescue deal was brokered you were looking at the entire collapse bar 2 clubs of the professional game.
I would dearly love to see us and cas thriving in SL, but I fear that two clubs in one city fits in the long term plans of the modern game as much as "traditional" clubs being in it over "fabricated" ones.
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| so if 2 clubs became 1 at 1 ground we would most likely lose max of 30% support for both so looking at 6k min for each home game before the away support, duplication of staff result in big cost savings, duplication of players, bills etc all big cost savers..means more money to be spent on players, higher quality rugby, higher league position = more fans ! we could become a major force but ..
COULD WE ALL STOMACH IT? AND I MEAN FROM BOTH SIDES!
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| Quote: crowt123 "so if 2 clubs became 1 at 1 ground we would most likely lose max of 30% support for both so looking at 6k min for each home game before the away support, duplication of staff result in big cost savings, duplication of players, bills etc all big cost savers..means more money to be spent on players, higher quality rugby, higher league position COULD WE ALL STOMACH IT? AND I MEAN FROM BOTH SIDES!
The answer is YES !
Watching a top side playing attractive rugby is a pleasure and believe me as time passes more people will attend.
As for the diehrads well if you want to continue watching some of the crap that both us and Cas have dished up this season you are wellcome to it.
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| As much as I would like to go it alone I fear with the pressures from SKY, franchising etc. a merger may become inevitable. I cannot see both us and Castleford getting franchises in 2012 or may be neither of us will. Also to compete with the big boys we either need a massive increase in crowds or a Sugar Daddy and I cannot see either on the horizon.
Done correctly a merger could work. Of course there are some who will not under any circumstances support a merged club, as there are others who will not watch the team if "relegated" to the NL but a team playing attractive rugby, in with a shout of silverware as Prince Buster has said is a pleasure to watch and will bring in new fans which are needed to sustain any club.
I for one would take a merger if my only other choice was to go back the playing in the NL with little or no hope of playing in SL again but that's me, we all have our own views.
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| to be honest i think if that if a ground share/or god forbid a merger was on the cards i think that would be at Junction 32, my reasoning behind this is that Cas already have outline planning permission and you are still going through the process which appears to be attracting alot of opposition from residents in the surrounding area.
A merger/ground share would suit WMDC both teams having somewhere to play whilst keeping the council tax payers/voters happy.
Obviously I would prefer we both had our own grounds but who knows what the future holds
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| simple fact there is not going to be 2 teams in 2 ground next time with this years apparent failings on the pitch.
what happens from there god knows, but im here to tel lyou if it was my money going in either ground at this moment in time id be zipping my wallet.
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| im surprised by the response on this thread , it seems like more people are seeing it as a inevitable must do. however hard it is to stomach . I normally do a thread like this once/twice a year and at moment no one as put forward an argument for the anti merger .
Is the Trinity walk venture obtained that name as its gonna be a reminder of what used to be so the memory lives forever?
sorry guys perhaps its but twitching time but ib reality i can not see both clubs being in sl as separate clubs for to much longer so if that's too be lets just get on with it . Maybe next year will be the very last for the red white n blue in the way we know it.
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| I've tried to stay away from the "grounds issue" and don't wish to comment on the M word.
Not for me at this time.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "I've tried to stay away from the "grounds issue" and don't wish to comment on the M word.
Not for me at this time.'"
lets face it if Muse were crap live it would not matter where they played, cos no one would turn up, even if they owned the Muse stadium.
Weird thing is in all this is no one is mentioning how close the new leeds arena is, which will hold as many, is indoors, and completely starve the ground of any non-sport revenue streams.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "I've tried to stay away from the "grounds issue" and don't wish to comment on the M word.
Not for me at this time.'"
yes i know mate and i understand your no at this time but hers the thing a year ago it was a definite no ... now we have a no at this time. fact is Al if it does happen i cannot see me turning my back on the greatest sport in the world and i struggle to imagine that supporters like yourself could . So what do we do ? Go to fev dewsbury (maybe) or batley (no chance as i always shout for the rams) or just swallow it and get on with it?
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| No comment mate
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "No comment mate
merged team and no trinity, dewsbury for me!
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| Quote: tropical1 "to be honest i think if that if a ground share/or god forbid a merger was on the cards i think that would be at Junction 32, my reasoning behind this is that Cas already have outline planning permission and you are still going through the process which appears to be attracting alot of opposition from residents in the surrounding area.
A merger/ground share would suit WMDC both teams having somewhere to play whilst keeping the council tax payers/voters happy.
Obviously I would prefer we both had our own grounds but who knows what the future holds'"
only problem there is that there is NO money for the development whereas at jcn 30 there is..the ground there will be built.. as mentioned earlier i would go for wakefield trinity tigers..how would we grow in the future with a team who could be a success ? both teams have struggled for too long.. i am now swaying towards the M because i am too long sick of the struggle! maybe the cas name could be our NL1 feeder?
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| Would we be talking of a merger a month ago,i doubt it.To my understanding if we get the planning permission the stadium is a done deal and that would secure our future.
To be honest i think it would be a case of one win and the team would be back on target,because it looks like a confidence boost is all that it would take to get them back on track, and all this doom and gloom can stop,because we are still in a decent position in the league and there are not too many teams playing good,consistent rugby at the moment.
As far as a merger if the ground was in Cas with Cas in the name then it's a no.
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| Quote: Shifty Cat "Would we be talking of a merger a month ago,i doubt it.To my understanding if we get the planning permission the stadium is a done deal and that would secure our future.
To be honest i think it would be a case of one win and the team would be back on target,because it looks like a confidence boost is all that it would take to get them back on track, and all this doom and gloom can stop,because we are still in a decent position in the league and there are not too many teams playing good,consistent rugby at the moment.
As far as a merger if the ground was in Cas with Cas in the name then it's a no.'"
I doubt we would but things change quickly in RL.
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