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| Quote: Captain Library "The Aussie tries tonight were spectacular, including the so-called "mile forward knock-on" try (which seemed legit to me?).'"
Attacking plays with so many runners at great speed, how the hell do you defend against that, superb RL.
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| 'Attacking plays with so many runners at great speed, how the hell do you defend against that, superb RL.'
I think we should try that at Wakefield next season
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| Quote: wakeyjosh "Right at front of south stand'"
We had 6 full rows of aussies behind us but at least we got on sky twice cos of em get in Josh
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| the only difference for me is fitness and intensity. England are not too far away and the result did not reflect the game. Australia are not class, pack and half backs not class, just Inglis and Slater are a class act. If England had Inglis and Slater then a victory would have been achieved.
glad Smith as gone, achieved nothing and a british coach is a must for the national team
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| Quote: Pacman "the only difference for me is fitness and intensity. England are not too far away and the result did not reflect the game. Australia are not class, pack poop and half backs not class, just Inglis and Slater are a class act. If England had Inglis and Slater then a victory would have been achieved.
glad Smith as gone, achieved nothing and a british coach is a must for the national team'" i know lockyear and thurston are terrible arnt they, cameron smith is rubbish aswell and the other backs. 46 points playing behind a poop pack whatever next.
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| having gone to watch the game I felt we did ok right up to the Shenton injury around 60 mins, but coming back to watch it on telly not even the bottle of red wine could hide the lack of skill to the Aussies
we have about 1 player to 4 in every position they can just spew talented players out at will, Peacock, Morley are come to the end of their shelf life and bar for Burgess and Ellis I just don't see how we can replace them
England has been weakened by this result
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| People that take pleasure in pulling England to bits over last nights performance need to look at the quality that proved to be the deciding factor of the result more closely
Englands forwards equalled both the Aussie and the Kiwi pack's throughout the series, but we are sadly lacking the International quality backs
to cause them any problems out wide
This must have been a wonderful incentive to take into a test match, the fact that if you can contain everything that a side can possibly throw at you in the forwards but in the knowledge that their backline will not be able to trouble you out wide
How can any team defend for 80 minutes against super star players like Thurston, Lockyer, Inglis and Slater?
If you can, then i'd have thought that the coach of NSW would have worked out how to do it also in the games that count, because Queensland have put NSW to the sword in much the same way in recent years
Jarryd Hayne is a player that was voted the NRL player of the season, but he has hardly made an inpact throughout the whole series, Folau was also missing due to injury, sadly we don't have such luxuries
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| Quote: Pacman "the only difference for me is fitness and intensity. England are not too far away and the result did not reflect the game. Australia are not class, pack poop and half backs not class, just Inglis and Slater are a class act. If England had Inglis and Slater then a victory would have been achieved.
glad Smith as gone, achieved nothing and a british coach is a must for the national team'"
Lockyer and Thurston would walk into the England team,Maguire,Tomkins,Eastmond classier than the 2 Aussies,don't make me laugh!!! In fact put all three in at the same time and they'd still wipe the floor with our lads!
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| 46 points in the modern game is nothing. Their pack did not get on top of England's pack, their tries except for J.Hayne and B.Slater (2nd Try) where soft and a result of fatigue. If England had Inglis and Slater in the team then England would be champions.
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| Fitness should never be an issue,we've been proffessional now for 12 years,there's still 24 hours in a day so we can't use that as an excuse,what excuse next,"it's sunny in Oz so they can train more"?
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| Quote: Pacman "46 points in the modern game is nothing. Their pack did not get on top of England's pack, their tries except for J.Hayne and B.Slater (2nd Try) where soft and a result of fatigue. If England had Inglis and Slater in the team then England would be champions.'"
im not sure i watched the same game as you did, or i was taking different substances!
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| Four things are the different...
1. INTENSITY...the league that play in for the clubs are of a better standard with alot more teams than our two who can win the league.State of Origin is a of test standard in all but name and players are used to playing matches of that intensity for 80 minutes.
2. SKILL....I train under 13's and along with every other age group are training at the moment in three inches of mud in extremely poor lighting. Kids are growing up learning the basic skills in extremely poor conditions trying to do passing drills when they can not even see the ball. Aussie kids are growing up in dry daylight conditions to learn the basic skills required.When is BARLA/RFL realise that all kids rugby should be played in the spring and or summer months.
3. FITNESS...should not be an issue as they are all full time pros but after 60 mins we were really flagging.
4. IMPORTS...Too many average overseas imports in key positions stopping young talent coming through and playing.You only have to look at our club to see not many would get job back in Aus.
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| watch the game up to 6omins and tell me who the better team was? If England's kicking game was better and we keep Aus in their own half instead of piggy backing them up the field then England would have won. 46-16 was not a reflection of that game and if Burgess passes to tomkins in first half then Aus would have been under pressure.
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| Quote: Pacman "watch the game up to 6omins and tell me who the better team was? If England's kicking game was better and we keep Aus in their own half instead of piggy backing them up the field then England would have won. 46-16 was not a reflection of that game and if Burgess passes to tomkins in first half then Aus would have been under pressure.'"
thanks for agreeing with me!
if we'd tackled better, kicked better, given away less penalties, been fitter, and attacked better we would have won!
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| Quote: The Biffs Back "People that take pleasure in pulling England to bits over last nights performance need to look at the quality that proved to be the deciding factor of the result more closely
Englands forwards equalled both the Aussie and the Kiwi pack's throughout the series, but we are sadly lacking the International quality backs
to cause them any problems out wide
This must have been a wonderful incentive to take into a test match, the fact that if you can contain everything that a side can possibly throw at you in the forwards but in the knowledge that their backline will not be able to trouble you out wide
How can any team defend for 80 minutes against super star players like Thurston, Lockyer, Inglis and Slater?
If you can, then i'd have thought that the coach of NSW would have worked out how to do it also in the games that count, because Queensland have put NSW to the sword in much the same way in recent years
Jarryd Hayne is a player that was voted the NRL player of the season, but he has hardly made an inpact throughout the whole series, Folau was also missing due to injury, sadly we don't have such luxuries'"
don't think it a case of pulling them to bits more of a realization that we have a hell of way to go to even reach their plain,
if England had of been able to hold out and even win last night dont let it fool you that we of been able to retain the title,
our forwards did manage to cope with theirs to some extent but I don't see anything coming through the ranks to replace Peacock and Morley at the moment
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