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I tend to agree with kinleycat.
There's a global reccession on at the moment,i've not had a wage rise in three years and don't look like getting one next year either.If DB's got anything like a 10% percent increase he should deem himself a very lucky guy,we can only pay wages in line with our crowds and income stream, move away from that and we'd be comitting financial suicide.
I hope DB sees sense and accepts what i'm told is a very good increase in wages,if not we'll have to sit back and see who comes in for him.

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Quote: JINJER "I tend to agree with kinleycat.
There's a global reccession on at the moment,i've not had a wage rise in three years and don't look like getting one next year either.If DB's got anything like a 10% percent increase he should deem himself a very lucky guy,we can only pay wages in line with our crowds and income stream, move away from that and we'd be comitting financial suicide.
I hope DB sees sense and accepts what i'm told is a very good increase in wages,if not we'll have to sit back and see who comes in for him.'"
agreed sometimes players are happy and they wont rock the boat, we cannot bankrupt the club, hes just a part of it, if he wants to stay and hes gonna be happy then good. if he wants to keep pushing for more then bye bye danny.

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Quote: kinleycat "Agreed, there comes a point when you just can't affor your top earners, look at the bulls!!
But I cannot believe that is where we are, but with attendences low this season, our projected income must have been down, so maybe danny has to be a bit realistic.
It's all a bit iffy really, and he also pays his agent to look after his best intrests, which usually is money!!!'"


I know one thing for sure, DB agent is a top bloke, and agents are no worse than clubs when it comes to contract talks. I just think that DB needs to do what is best for him, we are fans, they (players) are employed by the club.
I dont know what he wants, or what he is being offered, but Wakefield are far from sqeeky clean when it comes down to wages, promises, and loyalty.

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Quote: pyeman "I dont understand that, when kear signed him he was getting intrest from a number of sl clubs, and would have been resigned by cas if he would have been willing to wait till after the gf.'"


He could be talking about the time when he was at FC!

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Quote: JINJER "I tend to agree with kinleycat.
There's a global reccession on at the moment,i've not had a wage rise in three years and don't look like getting one next year either.If DB's got anything like a 10% percent increase he should deem himself a very lucky guy,we can only pay wages in line with our crowds and income stream, move away from that and we'd be comitting financial suicide.
I hope DB sees sense and accepts what i'm told is a very good increase in wages,if not we'll have to sit back and see who comes in for him.'"


If three or four companies' were after your services would you turn them down out of hand, or would you go for better wages and conditions simple choice really for the sake of a few extra quid do we want to keep one of the best scrum halves' in the league or not right or wrong thats the situation.

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Quote: chissitt "He could be talking about the time when he was at FC!'"


Hadnt thoguht of that, fair enough, though his carear did once again go into stagnation until he was loaned out to and eventually signed for cas.

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Quote: i8no-one "I know one thing for sure, DB agent is a top bloke, and agents are no worse than clubs when it comes to contract talks. I just think that DB needs to do what is best for him, we are fans, they (players) are employed by the club.
I dont know what he wants, or what he is being offered, but Wakefield are far from sqeeky clean when it comes down to wages, promises, and loyalty.'"

I'm sure as you say, he is a top bloke, I don't even know his name.
It is however in his own best intrest for his client to earn as much money as possible, in order to earn his "10%". that is not in the "clubs" best interests.
I am a fan of wakefield trinity, not one player or one agent, therefor I am scepticle of agents.
You are right also about the "clubs" not being aqueeky clean, not just Wakefield and not just rugby league, which is why we find ourselves in a situation of having to use a third party, reap what you sow!!!
3 into 2 doesn't go for me, the clubs should be trusted to make there best offer and the player should be honest and deal responsibly with their club, basically that's what most fans want.
So come on wakey make him the best offer you can, danny take it, cos we want you to stay, and lets kick on next season and look forward to a bright new future in a shiny new ground!!!!!

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Quote: JINJER "I tend to agree with kinleycat.
There's a global reccession on at the moment,i've not had a wage rise in three years and don't look like getting one next year either.If DB's got anything like a 10% percent increase he should deem himself a very lucky guy,we can only pay wages in line with our crowds and income stream, move away from that and we'd be comitting financial suicide.
I hope DB sees sense and accepts what i'm told is a very good increase in wages,if not we'll have to sit back and see who comes in for him.'"


In a short career you cant blame anyone for maximising there earnings and if he has the possibility of higher offers elsewhere then you have the possibility of a disgruntled player on your hands?

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Quote: darwoo11 "In a short career you cant blame anyone for maximising there earnings and if he has the possibility of higher offers elsewhere then you have the possibility of a disgruntled player on your hands?'"

fair enough, everyone has the right to choose there employer and if someone has the choice they also have right to go to the highest bidder.
All most fans would like is a bit of up front honesty, we do get attached to these guys, and we feel a bit let down when they turn us over.
A bit if honesty is all I ask, and that means from the club to danny aswell!!!

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Quote: pyeman "Hadnt thoguht of that, fair enough, though his carear did once again go into stagnation until he was loaned out to and eventually signed for cas.'"


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Quote: chissitt "If three or four companies' were after your services would you turn them down out of hand, or would you go for better wages and conditions simple choice really for the sake of a few extra quid do we want to keep one of the best scrum halves' in the league or not right or wrong thats the situation.'"
we couldn't keep hold of one of the our best scrum halves in the past in the end (David Topliss) he went on to other clubs, but could you just imagine being the main part of the team that pushed the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats back in to the top the league,
he could put in another three years and still be young enough to move on afterwards if things didn't work out.

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Quote: chissitt "He could be talking about the time when he was at FC!'"
he had a fair bit of trouble down cas too. danny seems to be happy at wakey over all. has buckled down and worked hard and his discipline on and off the field has been pretty good. he should remember that everything people promise does not necessarily follow as a lot of other players have found out after leaving wakey. wakey is a pretty good place to be at the moment. danny is not stupid. imo, he will re-sign.

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Quote: snowie "we couldn't keep hold of one of the our best scrum halves in the past in the end (David Topliss) he went on to other clubs, but could you just imagine being the main part of the team that pushed the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats back in to the top the league,
he could put in another three years and still be young enough to move on afterwards if things didn't work out.'"


??????


Toppo was a Stand Off.. but didnt leave Trinity until he was into his early 30's... then came back aged 36 as player coach/ coach... also it was in his years away from us that he won medals.... I also remember reading that the club also thought it was time for him to move on...

however if you are looking at players we have had and not been able to keep (for whatever reason and I only include the ones I personally think would have been worth keeping)... David Smith... David Jeans... Bob Haigh... Ian Brooke... Mick Morgan... Trevor Skerrett... Keith Rayne... Kevin Rayne... Andy Kelly... David Finch... Graham Idle... .....and so on until more recent times) Colin Maskill... Ben Westwood... Keith Mason... Ryan Hudson... Nigel Wright... Gareth Ellis... Adrian Flynn... Richard Goddard... Alan Hunte... Ryan Atkins... Scott Grix... Olivier Elima... Oliver Wilkes... Jason Golden... Peter Fox... Jay Pitts


maybe Danny Brough will join this list... maybe not...

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Quote: underground "??????


Toppo was a Stand Off.. but didnt leave Trinity until he was into his early 30's... then came back aged 36 as player coach/ coach... also it was in his years away from us that he won medals.... I also remember reading that the club also thought it was time for him to move on...

however if you are looking at players we have had and not been able to keep (for whatever reason and I only include the ones I personally think would have been worth keeping)... David Smith... David Jeans... Bob Haigh... Ian Brooke... Mick Morgan... Trevor Skerrett... Keith Rayne... Kevin Rayne... Andy Kelly... David Finch... Graham Idle... .....and so on until more recent times) Colin Maskill... Ben Westwood... Keith Mason... Ryan Hudson... Nigel Wright... Gareth Ellis... Adrian Flynn... Richard Goddard... Alan Hunte... Ryan Atkins... Scott Grix... Olivier Elima... Oliver Wilkes... Jason Golden... Peter Fox... Jay Pitts


maybe Danny Brough will join this list... maybe not...'"
yes he was stand off, had Broughy in mind at scrum half what I meant was we had a star player and he moved on to other clubs

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Quote: snowie "we couldn't keep hold of one of the our best scrum halves in the past in the end (David Topliss) he went on to other clubs, but could you just imagine being the main part of the team that pushed the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats back in to the top the league,
he could put in another three years and still be young enough to move on afterwards if things didn't work out.'"


The thing with Toppo is we had the best years out of him, but its different with Brough as he probably has the best years in front of him. The club is in an unenviable position at the moment, on one hand they have one of the most talented scrum halfs' in SL do they try and find a bit extra for him at the expense of somebody else and perhaps cause unrest in the camp or do they say enough Danny boy take it or leave it if its not enough go where the grass is greener, a bit of a dilemma for the club either way it will upset fans.

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