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| Quote: The Doctor "From an outsider looking in I don't know how much you value my input, but I really don't think you need to panic about getting in the play offs whatsoever.
To put it bluntly you've gone toe to toe with the best sides in Super League in Leeds Saints Huddersfield and afew other teams in and about the play off spots, and it must be difficult to back that up week on week.
With a few fixtures against teams nearer the bottom of the table I think normal service will be resumed and you will start showing what you can do again.
I wouldnt bet against a Cas v Wakey clash in the play offs!'"
Doctor always posts sense.
Well done today mate - Heaven knows I'm miserable now.
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| Quote: owiepob "I have no idea how long you have been supporting Trinity but I have been for 30 years. Now I fully accept that length of time as a supporter does not make my views more valid than the next supporter BUT it does allow you as a reader to appraise and evaluate my comments.
Never in all my time as a Trinity supporter have we been in the top flight with less than a quarter of the season to go and had a 50% win record. This is the best season in my lifetime. The McNally season was the previous best when I think we won 5 from 6 of the last games.
So you will forgive me if I don't join the clarion call for JKs head. Whilst you might think my comments are based on him saving us 3 years ago - naturally I'd disagree - they are based on 30 years.
There is a difference between recognising the positive influence JK is having on our club, cellebrating the successes and saying that JK does everything right because clearly he does not.
How about a little balance RDM?'" very well said mate. jk has worked miracles with what he has to work with, both on and off the field. speak to any of the players and they will tell you. i do agree with what he says about playing players out of position, but as far as kear is concerned , the best thing that has happened to wakey.
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| was next to JK in the coaching box today and was stunned to see and hear his reaction to the game, Grix needs to be in the middle, and when he subbed and then brought Drew back on he had too many players who he wanted to chance there arm.
I think emotion got the better of Kear today.
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| Quote: jonh "was next to JK in the coaching box today and was stunned to see and hear his reaction to the game, Grix needs to be in the middle, and when he subbed and then brought Drew back on he had too many players who he wanted to chance there arm.
I think emotion got the better of Kear today.'" what do you mean , too many wanted to chance their arm john?
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| Quote: jonh "was next to JK in the coaching box today and was stunned to see and hear his reaction to the game, Grix needs to be in the middle, and when he subbed and then brought Drew back on he had too many players who he wanted to chance there arm.
I think emotion got the better of Kear today.'"
Wait for the usual vitriol from the all seeing eye that is Vasty........
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| Quote: MR BROWN "what do you mean , too many wanted to chance their arm john?'"
Kears orders to Beans was get so and so on to chance his arm, with about 20 left.
He took Drew off then brought him back on much to Drews disgust, then when it went tits up was slinging his water about at the wndow, never seen Kear lose it like that, in my opinion he got too involved emotionally today.
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| Quote: Mr. Mojo Risin "Wait for the usual vitriol from the all seeing eye that is Vasty........'"
I didn't think he came on when Wakey lost. If Wakey win and Cas lose, he is happy, if Ferguson scores and Westerman plays crap, he is creaming in his pants.
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| Quote: jonh "Kears orders to Beans was get so and so on to chance his arm, with about 20 left.
He took Drew off then brought him back on much to Drews disgust, then when it went tits up was slinging his water about at the wndow, never seen Kear lose it like that, in my opinion he got too involved emotionally today.'" see what you mean john. thought it was strange when i saw drew come off and then 2 mins later back on
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| Quote: Tiger Bond "I didn't think he came on when Wakey lost. If Wakey win and Cas lose, he is happy, if Ferguson scores and Westerman plays crap, he is creaming in his pants.
Not in a million years am I defending Vasty, but I just don't see the 'great white hope' that Westerman is meant to be? No sour grapes, but I have never seen him have a good game?
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| Maybe not his finest game, but any Wakey fan who would condone Kear's dismissal needs their head looking at. We have never been as regularly competitive in SL as we are right now and again, for a club our size we punch well above our weight and this is down in no small part to Kear.
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| Don't think there is any doubt that Kear is the man for the job. Just needs to play players in thier correct positions. It's confusing watching the interchanges so who knows how confusing it must be to the players.
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| Quote: RDM "As bad as the game today was overall, there was a clear improvement in the way we played when Grix was moved to stand off, with JD moving to centre & Gleeson on to the wing. This isn't a one-off either, we did the same against Saints & Leeds and both times we started to play better rugby.
The simple fact is that JK has been playing too many of the team out of position for too long & we were going to pay the price sooner or later. If we are going to take any sort of form into the playoffs, we MUST start playing people in their best positions. That means Grix getting a decent run at 6, moving JD out of the pack to centre & then we're only left with 1 player out of position with Gleeson on the wing - not that there's a huge difference in work between centre & wing.
We've reached that point in the season where the coach's tactics will either make or break our year. We have fully deserved our spot in the playoff places so far, but IMO we need 3 more wins to secure our place in the post season. That means beating Salford & Celtic (which we wouldn't look like doing based on today's performance) as well as beating one of Wire, Catalans or HKR.
I know that there will be many fans wearing rose tinited glasses that say JK can do no wrong because he saved us 3 years ago, but if we miss out on the playoffs this year that will be 3 successive years where we have started well but failed to finish the job off. The playing personnel has seen changes in that time so the only common denominator is JK. IMO if we fail to reach the playoffs, JK would fully deserve delivery of his P45 on Mad Monday.'"
yes your right about people playing out of position atkins has been out of position for the last 2 and half season HE is not a centre
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| while i at the moment dont think jk and p45's should be in the same sentece i do agree with what RDM says.players are been played out of postion too much grix needs to play at 6 for rest of the season with out a doubt while some players (mainly atkins) need a kick up the backside.while jk is doing a good job but to me he is not the special one many believe if we fail to get in the playoffs we would have not improved on the previous 2 season and infact dropped a place or two and while i dont think we can expect to improve every year but that would be 3 years without improvment therfore kear is not the special one
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| I was also stood next to JK during yesterday's game, as I do every week. I love the fact that he shows passion, and whilst I didn't throw anything about at the final whistle, I certainly felt like it! He brought Drew off so that it could be pointed out to him that he was 'going missing' defensively, and that he needed to sort it out. At that point in the match not a lot was going for us, so with about 10 to go he told Beans to get him back out their and just to pop up wherever he wanted to try and create something and maybe unsettle Cas with a sort of free roll. Not exactly part of the plan, but a good coach is not frightened of trying something different when obviously plans A,B and C hadn't worked.
No probs with JK, does a very good job........just a bad performance.......it happens
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| i do think Kear got it tactically wrong by starting JD at Dummy half when we had Obst in the team and Drew on the bench (and Latu 18th man)
I think it was a case of trying to fit players in the team in their wrong positions.
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