There are quite a few of them who no longer seem to be the players of the early rounds of the season. I am not saying they have lost a lot of 'edge' probably only 10% but that can be enough between winners and loosers.

But for all the negativity we are 6th and only off 5th by one drop goal in points difference.
Silly play by Zeb Taia cost us 5th today.

6th is mid table is it not. Tell me how many points are we in front of the bottom team and how many points are we behind the top team. These next 4 or 5 games could see us into the top 5, however we could also slide down much nearer to the bottom, if we don't start to pull things around quickly

Exactly. We are in a good position right now.
What happens from now on is unknown but with our top players coming back I am feeling more positive than negative.

Any team looking to get into the top 5 should not be getting thrashed by London once, never mind twice.

I agree. And we have one more game against them too.

Yes they are ALL clearly overweight aren't they, I mean just look at England, Batch, Ashurst, so fat they can barely run.....you do spout some crap don't you. Well seen as you're disgruntled most of the time with the way we have played etc, I can tell you matey without our 'pack leader' we would probably be in the bottom 4 now, because he almost singlehandedly won us games against Wigan, Hudds probably twice, and at least one more. But that just goes to show how ignorant you are about the game in general.......

Good to know you're still out to lunch.

Our forwards are probably what concern me the most but on paper they are a decent set. We've been battered down the middle twice by London. We can't seem to get the upper hand in the ruck ina lot of games. Also concerning for me is out line speed. We are beaten on line speed in every game pretty much. Even Widnes had better line speed than us for the majority of that game. We seem to just wait and hang back in defence. I think all over the pitch we need to be a bit more aggressive. We should be okay when we get all players back - especially Bill but recent performances have been concerning. Can't comment on Catalan as the first game I have missed this season but sounds like the first half was not much different to games like Widnes.

Agree on line speed and that is one thing that really frustrates me and has done for years, we just don`t seem to move up and pressure teams. Kickers must love playing against us as they seem to have all the time in the world to kick the ball where as every other team gets up in there face which makes a real difference.

In all honesty, I actually think we struggle with go forward outside of Kops and Fifita in the pack who both constantly win the collision.

King consistently wins the collusion and makes good yards but doesn’t get enough game time for me.

I’ll keep saying it, we have not played a full 80 mins this season, usually the first 20. You simply can’t meep winning games in ten minute spurts.

We struggled to make metres against Catalans at Anfield often kicking from very deep, much like the Saturday home game against them last season.

I don't think our pack has suddenly got fat, or our team suddenly become unfit, or whatever else panicky nonsense the doomsayers come up with; we've been hit by an unprecedented and sudden injury crisis, and it's taken a toll on our ability to deliver on the field - despite that, we're hanging around where we need to be and there's every chance that we'll see an uptick when the injured players return to the team. That's it.

We're giving the opposition far too much time at PTB & like
Adam_Harrison9 said if we learned to speed it up we be a different side altogether but we never have so it probably won't happen.