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Quote: Wakey Til I Die "No surprise. Thats him and Walshaw now. Trout next?'"


And when Annakins fit, he'll get shipped out. Don't worry though, the goody two shoes brigade will still justify it someway. icon_biggrin.gifAISY:

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Quote: Willzay "Wouldn't blame him if he left permanently, been messed about quite a lot.'"


Care to elaborate on your opinion ?

To me it looks like a Proffesional coach does not class him good enough to be in his starting 17 each week.

From what i have seen i agree, Matt has had countless oppurtunities to step up and play his game.

Agar works with these players day in day out and he`s leaving him out for a reason, Because he`s not good enough to be in his first 17! Not because he doesnt like him, Not because he want`s to `Mess him about`.

To me he is a decent cover there for injuries or if someone is in poor form he gets his chance.

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And why not Ship trout out on Loan? It`s better than him sitting in the stands.

At least when it comes down to him been needed to play he`s match fit.

Annakin showed what he could do last season and kept his place in the squad, and rightly so.

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Two down, two to go

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Quote: Wildcat26 "Care to elaborate on your opinion ?

To me it looks like a Proffesional coach does not class him good enough to be in his starting 17 each week.

From what i have seen i agree, Matt has had countless oppurtunities to step up and play his game.

Agar works with these players day in day out and he`s leaving him out for a reason, Because he`s not good enough to be in his first 17! Not because he doesnt like him, Not because he want`s to `Mess him about`.
To me he is a decent cover there for injuries or if someone is in poor form he gets his chance.'"

Can't see what he did wrong the last two games before Saints, was part of the 17 that had two good wins.
He may not be the best player we have but at least let him have a poor game before he gets squeezed out, not just dropped to accommodate players coming back.
Wildie signed a contract at the start of the season when the club was on it's , he showed some loyalty.
Luckily he is probably glad he only signed a one year deal.

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Dont think Annekin will get shipped out.

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It gives everybody something to moan about so some value there I guess

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "Can't see what he did wrong the last two games before Saints, was part of the 17 that had two good wins.
He may not be the best player we have but at least let him have a poor game before he gets squeezed out, not just dropped to accommodate players coming back.
Wildie signed a contract at the start of the season when the club was on it's booty, he showed some loyalty.
Luckily he is probably glad he only signed a one year deal.'"


Like ive said why else would Agar drop him other than him been deemed not good enough ?

He has a qualified opinion, he see`s every aspect of Wildies game day in, day out.

Fair enough if i saw anything from Wildie to be impressed by maybe i would be questioning Agars decisions a bit.

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Got to say Matty is a good player, just not quite good enough.

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Sadly all too predictable. I guess its especially gutting for someone who took a pay cut and signed for the club when no one else wanted to only to be replaced by an unproven kid from Australia. Of the few opportunities Wildie has had post 2011 he has never had an obviously poor game or made any significant errors where only last Sunday Lyne made two pivotal errors (granted one of which the player should’ve been tackled prior to Lyne’s pitiful attempt but still) yet is in the team regardless.

Trout will be next if there is anyone to take him, it is a little more understandable given the glut of back rowers the club has. Anakin probably won’t get a shot at 13 due to the obligatory inclusion of Washbrook in the match day 17 so he’ll either end up propping again or fighting it out with Kirmond, Ryan, Lauitiiti, Molloy and maybe Tautai. Don’t rate his chances much.

The message is clear to me, if you’ve got a promising kid don’t send him to Wakefield as there will always be an excuse as to why they won’t feature in the first team. Fortunately Agar may not be here by the time the current u16’s are ready for regular inclusion into the first team so all that money going into the academy won’t go to waste.

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Quote: Khlav Kalash "Sadly all too predictable. I guess its especially gutting for someone who took a pay cut and signed for the club when no one else wanted to only to be replaced by an unproven kid from Australia. Of the few opportunities Wildie has had post 2011 he has never had an obviously poor game or made any significant errors where only last Sunday Lyne made two pivotal errors (granted one of which the player should’ve been tackled prior to Lyne’s pitiful attempt but still) yet is in the team regardless.

Trout will be next if there is anyone to take him, it is a little more understandable given the glut of back rowers the club has. Anakin probably won’t get a shot at 13 due to the obligatory inclusion of Washbrook in the match day 17 so he’ll either end up propping again or fighting it out with Kirmond, Ryan, Lauitiiti, Molloy and maybe Tautai. Don’t rate his chances much.

The message is clear to me, if you’ve got a promising kid don’t send him to Wakefield as there will always be an excuse as to why they won’t feature in the first team. Fortunately Agar may not be here by the time the current u16’s are ready for regular inclusion into the first team so all that money going into the academy won’t go to waste.'"



Oh Wildie, Trout & Walshaw arnt playing, But it`s not because there not good enough

There not playing because Agar wants to use any excuse he can not to play them?

Give it a rest, Agars here to pick his best team each week and that`s what he does.

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Quote: Wildcat26 "Oh Wildie, Trout & Walshaw arnt playing, But it`s not because there not good enough

There not playing because Agar wants to use any excuse he can not to play them?

Give it a rest, Agars here to pick his best team each week and that`s what he does.'"

It’s a forum where things are discussed. Show me any team in the sporting world where supporters don’t question team selections of the manager.

As for Agar, he shows an obvious bias to the players he has brought to the club. His varying treatment of Lyne and Cowling last year was a prime example, we let the better player go. Anakin will not get a game ahead of Washbrook despite offering more IMO. Siejka has been favored over Wildie despite being a kid himself, and an unproven at that. Is Keinhorst any better than Walshaw?

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Quote: Wildcat26 "Oh Wildie, Trout & Walshaw arnt playing, But it`s not because there not good enough

There not playing because Agar wants to use any excuse he can not to play them?

Give it a rest, Agars here to pick his best team each week and that`s what he does.'"

Sometimes the best team isn't always your best team.
Who will get squeezed out for no apparent reason when Washbrook is fit?
Will he walk in as a replacement for Keinhorst?
If you don't want players to get lazy and complacent, generally you create an environment where they compete for places.
But of course, this doesn't come into it as our sole purpose is to avoid relegation!
Relegation or not, some peoples faces just don't fit no matter what they do.

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Cowling better than Lyne....seriously? One doing ok in Super League...which stats would back up....the other struggling to get picked for a championship....

Like Ryan above Walshaw...as the season progresses it will be clear that was a no brainer...as I imagine Seijka over Wildie will be....

Anyway...just because a player goes on loan to the championship doesnt mean thats it.....it keeps them match fit playing regular games...its up to the player to do his stuff there and keep fighting for their go in the first team....

Sending fringe players out on loan dont mean the end...look wher Mitch Aichurch was this time last season and where he is now...

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I'm more concerned about where Aichurch will be this time next year!

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