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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I just wanted to take this opportunity to pay tribute to a man I never met, but whose work is invaluable for anyone looking into the history of the club.

The author, with David Armitage, of '100 Years of Rugby' and 'Dreadnoughts', which are both essential works for any Wakefield supporters, along with match after match of excellent, informative programme notes makes studying the history of Wakefield Trinity and who it got to where it is far from the chore it would be without it.

The detailed programme notes especially add colour to the most mundane of fixtures, with facts, stats and colour on the club's various opponents and legendary players.

When the club finally gets it's backside in gear, and institutes a Hall of Fame for those who built this club, his name is one which should be included,

Thanks for your work Mr. Lindley.


rl'Dreadnoughts' Club History Threadrl'"

Got a copy of the book. Its a great read. As said it is invaluable in keeping the history of our great club. eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: wakeytrin "Got a copy of the book. Its a great read. As said it is invaluable in keeping the history of our great club.
You know if anyone at Squadbuilder or the ST can get the rights to that book I see no reason why we can't add the next 30-40 years??? to it and have it on sale for N/M. I mean it's half written already!

I can do the technical stuff (that's my day job) if others do the research and contributions. Add a few bit's in like the history of BV and Kits and bingo.

Anyone interested let me know by PM.

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I second that Vasty. I would be very happy to buy that book but who would be the modern historian with bit of flair for writing the next chapter?
Quote: vastman "You know if anyone at Squadbuilder or the ST can get the rights to that book I see no reason why we can't add the next 30-40 years??? to it and have it on sale for N/M. I mean it's half written already!

I can do the technical stuff (that's my day job) if others do the research and contributions. Add a few bit's in like the history of BV and Kits and bingo.

Anyone interested let me know by PM.'"


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Quote: vastman "You know if anyone at Squadbuilder or the ST can get the rights to that book I see no reason why we can't add the next 30-40 years??? to it and have it on sale for N/M. I mean it's half written already!

I can do the technical stuff (that's my day job) if others do the research and contributions. Add a few bit's in like the history of BV and Kits and bingo.

Anyone interested let me know by PM.'"

wasn't the Nigel bell testimonial brochure in the late 80 's a continuation of the history of Wakefield trinity? Also I have a massive scrapbook covering 1998 if U need it icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Stanley Cat "I second that Vasty. I would be very happy to buy that book but who would be the modern historian with bit of flair for writing the next chapter?'"

how about the person who does the fantstic Facebook page ?

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Quote: Wakefield No 1 "how about the person who does the fantstic Facebook page ?'"


TBH it is a big job to do right. I'm a publishing professional but only on the page make up/design side. So it would need a committee with a leader (editor), contributers (any of us),
someone experienced in Print buying and publishing (for organising printer and legal stuff). There would also be some upfront costs in buying the copyright of the old book and the use of certain images for the new section and of course the initial print run (probably cover that with subscriptions).

I know in the last few years fans have become weary of this and that organisation being formed to help the club. However this one is far more fun and self indulgent but with a real end result. It would IMHO be a pleasure - but I'm no organiser so someone needs to step forward if it's gonna happen.

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Why would you need to buy the copyright for the previous edition? Why can't you just start with the 1970s? You won't be able to match the style of the original author without a lot of trouble anyway, and it may not reflet the expectations of the modern market.

That said, you'd be lucky if you sold 1,000 copies. So it's vanity publishing at great expense. You'd also be lucky to keep down a day job, do the research required, and come up with something in the next few years. This is a job for someone who's retired (or maybe writing a PhD).

I'm not saying it isn't a worthwhile aim, but there's a huge amount of luck involved.

If I were retired, I'd love to research and write it - I mean that seriously.

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I agree it would be a tough job.
Would need a lot of input but would need a writer not a fan to do a good one.

On the subject, anyone know what this is?
Obviously no details but someone must have posted it on Amazon, and the authors have done a few things already....
www.amazon.co.uk/Wakefield-Trini ... 134&sr=1-4
I agree it would be a tough job.
Would need a lot of input but would need a writer not a fan to do a good one.

On the subject, anyone know what this is?
Obviously no details but someone must have posted it on Amazon, and the authors have done a few things already....
www.amazon.co.uk/Wakefield-Trini ... 134&sr=1-4


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Quote: RebelRebel "Why would you need to buy the copyright for the previous edition? Why can't you just start with the 1970s? You won't be able to match the style of the original author without a lot of trouble anyway, and it may not reflet the expectations of the modern market.

That said, you'd be lucky if you sold 1,000 copies. So it's vanity publishing at great expense. You'd also be lucky to keep down a day job, do the research required, and come up with something in the next few years. This is a job for someone who's retired (or maybe writing a PhD).

I'm not saying it isn't a worthwhile aim, but there's a huge amount of luck involved.

If I were retired, I'd love to research and write it - I mean that seriously.'"


I think I made it fairly clear it was a big job, but if you don't ask!

Why does the style need to match icon_confused.gif Who'd want a book with only half the clubs history icon_confused.gif Why rewrite what already exists icon_confused.gif

A 1000 copies is very pessimistic, but if you say so - it's still enough.

I think your underestimating the can do/build it in a shed mentality of the British - maybe you've been with our teutonic cousins to long icon_confused.gif:

Luck has nothing to do with it, just the desire.

Try this for what fans can do www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/ ... age_id=283

Any way it's fairly irrelevant because I've only had one reply icon_biggrin.gifANCE:
Quote: RebelRebel "Why would you need to buy the copyright for the previous edition? Why can't you just start with the 1970s? You won't be able to match the style of the original author without a lot of trouble anyway, and it may not reflet the expectations of the modern market.

That said, you'd be lucky if you sold 1,000 copies. So it's vanity publishing at great expense. You'd also be lucky to keep down a day job, do the research required, and come up with something in the next few years. This is a job for someone who's retired (or maybe writing a PhD).

I'm not saying it isn't a worthwhile aim, but there's a huge amount of luck involved.

If I were retired, I'd love to research and write it - I mean that seriously.'"


I think I made it fairly clear it was a big job, but if you don't ask!

Why does the style need to match icon_confused.gif Who'd want a book with only half the clubs history icon_confused.gif Why rewrite what already exists icon_confused.gif

A 1000 copies is very pessimistic, but if you say so - it's still enough.

I think your underestimating the can do/build it in a shed mentality of the British - maybe you've been with our teutonic cousins to long icon_confused.gif:

Luck has nothing to do with it, just the desire.

Try this for what fans can do www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/ ... age_id=283

Any way it's fairly irrelevant because I've only had one reply icon_biggrin.gifANCE:


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Quote: vastman "Any way it's fairly irrelevant because I've only had one reply
I think the specialist nature of the task narrows down your options fairly substantially.

If you're serious about it, you might want to contact the fella that does the Trinity Heritage stuff on Twitter - he seems to have a wealth of information and resources.

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Quote: bren2k "I think the specialist nature of the task narrows down your options fairly substantially.

If you're serious about it, you might want to contact the fella that does the Trinity Heritage stuff on Twitter - he seems to have a wealth of information and resources.'"


Some of it is that's for sure - but anyone can contribute as a writer (within reason).

But it needs an editor to pull it all together and a few meetings.

I can't see it happening but as I said if you don't ask you never know - it did work with the fanzine for a while. All I'm really offering is my expertise should anyone wish to run with it, it would be mean not too icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: vastman "Some of it is that's for sure - but anyone can contribute as a writer (within reason).'"


I write a lot but I'm certainly not a writer.

I could perhaps do some proof-reading? I could correct spelling mistakes and grammatical errors with pithy, sarcastic notes in the margins?

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how opportune

I've just been made redundant and start a period of 'gardening leave' tomorrow until my end date of 31/8 - my plans were to concentrate on writing, which I do in a semi-professional way - but wanted to 'up the ante' and see if I could get a serious publishing deal.

I would be up for doing this if I could get the support of the club and a few 'choice' contacts to support me with some of the raw data required (i.e. website owners, enthusiastic amateurs, the club, the express etc etc).

I could really do with having a chat with you Vasty and getting a better idea about how this could be achieved - so PM me and let's get something started icon_smile.gif

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Quote: benny the ball "I've just been made redundant and start a period of 'gardening leave' tomorrow until my end date of 31/8'"


Commiserations on that - you're not Bullboy are you?!

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Quote: bren2k "Commiserations on that - you're not Bullboy are you?!'"


thanks - but I really did see this as an opportunity icon_smile.gif I've worked for the same employer for 34 years having originally come from an art/writing background - I've bored so many people to death with the "what I could have done if I'd stayed doing that and not been tied down with a full time job" that this seemed like the time to 'put up or shut up' - so it genuinely was my plan to attempt to make a career out of wrting - you can imagine my surprise when I returned from holiday on Saturday - with 1 day left to work - and saw this topic.

Bullboy!!!!!!! How very dare you icon_surprised.gifops:

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