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| Quote: Sandal Cat "The only press releases have been made by the Council and they do not cover it but the Trust has stated to the Council that there is still an obligation to provide those community facilities which must be met and covered by any subsequent Section 106/CIL Agreements between the Council and Yorkcourt as and when new planning applications are submitted.'"
That’s good to hear, as I said earlier I think much more needs to be said about this part of the developers obligations as to the casual it seems all about and only about the stadium.
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| That's a very good point.
I do think to get the general public onside, you really do need to highlight what benefits and amenities will be available to the wider community. As a non Wakefield fan and Wakefield citizen, I have absolutely no idea what these are. I could probably research it but, it's unreasonable to think all Wakefield citizens will do that. They need the information on a plate, so they have something to support.
Unfortunately, at this point too many people consider it to be a "free stadium for Wakefield trinity paid for by the tax payer" and the community benefits appear to have been lost in the murky waters surrounding it all.
The council have done their best to get the voters and tax payers on their side with regard to the situation. The trust need to show that their number one priority is the citizens of Wakefield, with an added benefit for Wakefield trinity rlfc. Not the other way around.
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| Quote: JINJER "MC always comes across as being comfortable in front of the cameras, the club should be looking at an interview on Calendar and Look north, give the facts as they are regarding the use/non use of public money, otherwise if people think public funds are going to be used there could well be a backlash publicity wise.'"
Good idea but I don't think either would give MC free reign to push his cause.
However if they could get Box and MC on at the same time that would really make a good watch.
They'd need Paxo in between them.
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Good idea but I don't think either would give MC free reign to push his cause.
However if they could get Box and MC on at the same time that would really make a good watch.
They'd need Paxo in between them.'" Box couldn't a confrontation on TV he'd soil himself
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| Having heard box speak in public at that open council meeting some months ago I was surprised at how poor a public speaker he is. He seemed to have no confidence and relied on cheap humour to overcome his nerves. For someone in such high position he is a very poor orator. Come to think of it has anyone ever seen him speak on local TV? He would probably instruct a more eloquent lacky to stand in for him in any public confrontation with MC
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| Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "That's a very good point.
I do think to get the general public onside, you really do need to highlight what benefits and amenities will be available to the wider community. As a non Wakefield fan and Wakefield citizen, I have absolutely no idea what these are. I could probably research it but, it's unreasonable to think all Wakefield citizens will do that. They need the information on a plate, so they have something to support.
Unfortunately, at this point too many people consider it to be a "free stadium for Wakefield trinity paid for by the tax payer" and the community benefits appear to have been lost in the murky waters surrounding it all.
The council have done their best to get the voters and tax payers on their side with regard to the situation. The trust need to show that their number one priority is the citizens of Wakefield, with an added benefit for Wakefield trinity rlfc. Not the other way around.'"
The only people who are peddling the " it's a stadium for Wakefield Trinity paid by the tax payer" are supporters of other clubs desperate for us not to get a stadium as they fear we have bigger potential than them. The general Wakefield public know WMDC are either currupt or inept or both. The points raised on this thread regarding the community facilities the 4 g pitches etc that were promised along side the community stadium show this so called council have shown no political will just contempt.
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| I have only seen Box once, to speak to face to face, on a one to one basis, and the one word I could use to describe him, Was weasel.
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| Quote: The Avenger "That’s good to hear, as I said earlier I think much more needs to be said about this part of the developers obligations as to the casual it seems all about and only about the stadium.'"
Wonder if that's why Thornes Park was mentioned again better for a stadium with attached 4g pitches etc.
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "The only people who are peddling the " it's a stadium for Wakefield Trinity paid by the tax payer" are supporters of other clubs desperate for us not to get a stadium as they fear we have bigger potential than them. '"
What a loada piffle.
If you read the statement carefully from the council, that's EXACTLY the way they are portraying it to the public. That Wakefield want a ground paid for by the tax payer.
I know this isn't true, you know this isn't true.....
But the average Wakefield citizen who's unaware of the ins and outs has no reason to doubt the information in the council statemet.
Make it about fans of other clubs is that's what helps you sleep at night, but this in so many ways transcends rugby league. You need to take your blinkers off for a minute to see the bigger picture.
I'm as much a supporter of Wakefield community trust as any Wakefield fan, as they are operating on behalf of ALL Wakefield citizens, of which I am one, not just on behalf of Wakefield trinity and its supporters.
If you don't realise this then you're a big a part of the wider problem.
You also say "EVERYONE KNOWS the council is corrupt"
Define everyone? People still keep coming out and voting labour so I don't know what your basis for that is.
Please don't quote me if you're gonna talk absolute garbage in response.
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| The debate on the last two or three pages have in a way proved my point.Why is legal advice needed just to reply to the council statement. That is surely just putting in the public domain your side of the argument,without making any statements which could prejudice it. The longer we wait the more it becomes entrenched in the minds of the public what the council is saying.
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "The only people who are peddling the " it's a stadium for Wakefield Trinity paid by the tax payer" are supporters of other clubs desperate for us not to get a stadium as they fear we have bigger potential than them. The general Wakefield public know WMDC are either currupt or inept or both. The points raised on this thread regarding the community facilities the 4 g pitches etc that were promised along side the community stadium show this so called council have shown no political will just contempt.
Up the Trin'"
Congratulations on a very well researched post.
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| Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "
You also say "EVERYONE KNOWS the council is corrupt"
Define everyone? People still keep coming out and voting labour so I don't know what your basis for that is.
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The problem is not political. It is based one powerful individual's personal vendetta.
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| Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "What a loada piffle.
If you read the statement carefully from the council, that's EXACTLY the way they are portraying it to the public. That Wakefield want a ground paid for by the tax payer.
I know this isn't true, you know this isn't true.....
But the average Wakefield citizen who's unaware of the ins and outs has no reason to doubt the information in the council statemet.
Make it about fans of other clubs is that's what helps you sleep at night, but this in so many ways transcends rugby league. You need to take your blinkers off for a minute to see the bigger picture.
I'm as much a supporter of Wakefield community trust as any Wakefield fan, as they are operating on behalf of ALL Wakefield citizens, of which I am one, not just on behalf of Wakefield trinity and its supporters.
If you don't realise this then you're a big a part of the wider problem.
You also say "EVERYONE KNOWS the council is corrupt"
Define everyone? People still keep coming out and voting labour so I don't know what your basis for that is.
Please don't quote me if you're gonna talk absolute garbage in response.'"
That statement from the council contributes to the belief that WMDC are either currupt inept or both.
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Congratulations on a very well researched post.'"
I know, gets me why fans of other clubs are peddling that the WMDC are building Trinity a stadium and they are paying for it aswell. There were even fans of other clubs opposing the community stadium the other year why would they do that.
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "Congratulations on a very well researched post.'"
Strikes me this research is based on one source, Casforum. There are some thoughtful & considered contributions on there, but the overall picture is spiteful to say the least.
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