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Quote: BIGAL1 "John Kear, Minus the players we lost through one reason or another, i reckon that with those 3 still on board the season would have been slightly better, don't you.'"


3 players who Kear signed you mean?

What happens if he signs another unpredictable half back with a history of volatile behaviour and well documented financial problems who sods off half way through the season because somebody wafts a load of £20's under his nose? What happens if he doesn't do his homework and pays big bucks for a NRL prop who turns out to be sap and plays the homesick card and we let him go for frig all to possibly the richest club in the world? What happens if he signs an unhinged controversial hooker who has a history of doing stupid things and disciplinary problems getting suspensions who breaks the laws stupidly and gets banned?

Who's fault will that be?

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Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "3 players who Kear signed you mean?

What happens if he signs another unpredictable half back with a history of volatile behaviour and well documented financial problems who sods off half way through the season because somebody wafts a load of £20's under his nose? What happens if he doesn't do his homework and pays big bucks for a NRL prop who turns out to be sap and plays the homesick card and we let him go for frig all to possibly the richest club in the world? What happens if he signs an unhinged controversial hooker who has a history of doing stupid things and disciplinary problems getting suspensions who breaks the laws stupidly and gets banned?

Who's fault will that be?'"


So its Kears fault for signing those players and not being able to see into the future icon_thumb.gif Of course he knew Newton was taking the hormone and he knew Danny was going "bust". Troncs stats matched the best in SL during the time he stayed positive, maybe he felt let down by the club not delivering what they promised or we can just blame Kear if you like.

What a silly man he must be.

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Quote: BIGAL1 "So its Kears fault for signing those players and not being able to see into the future And the man who signed paul cooke,millard who never gets a pass,gleeson the turnstyle. what asilly man he must be.kears to blame full stop

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Quote: BIGAL1 "So its Kears fault for signing those players and not being able to see into the future
Maybe not - but its his fault what we are left with are playing clueless pee poor rugby with no heart and passion and its his fault that he has disrupted the club by going for two other jobs. He wanted out, yet half of the fans on here still back him to the hilt, yet question the loyalty of fans who have had enough and said they aren't going anymore - you couldn't make it up.

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Quote: Tricky2309 "Maybe not - but its his fault what we are left with are playing clueless pee poor rugby with no heart and passion and its his fault that he has disrupted the club by going for two other jobs. He wanted out, yet half of the fans on here still back him to the hilt, yet question the loyalty of fans who have had enough and said they aren't going anymore - you couldn't make it up.'"

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Quote: Tricky2309 "Maybe not - but its his fault what we are left with are playing clueless pee poor rugby with no heart and passion and its his fault that he has disrupted the club by going for two other jobs. He wanted out, yet half of the fans on here still back him to the hilt, yet question the loyalty of fans who have had enough and said they aren't going anymore - you couldn't make it up.'"


So whats the answer then Tricky.

I question how that helps support the Club and how having no money will help in the long run, how can we sign players with less income.

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Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "3 players who Kear signed you mean?

What happens if he signs another unpredictable half back with a history of volatile behaviour and well documented financial problems who sods off half way through the season because somebody wafts a load of £20's under his nose? What happens if he doesn't do his homework and pays big bucks for a NRL prop who turns out to be sap and plays the homesick card and we let him go for frig all to possibly the richest club in the world? What happens if he signs an unhinged controversial hooker who has a history of doing stupid things and disciplinary problems getting suspensions who breaks the laws stupidly and gets banned?

Who's fault will that be?'"


If you wouldn't take the 2 and a bit seasons we had out of Brough again with another unpredictable half back then you are mad. Tronc was top quality hardly Kear's fault he decided to bugger off and certainly not his fault the club let him walk for nothing. As for Newton yes he is/was a thug but Mystic Meg wouldn't have known he was gonna get caught doing drugs. There are a whole manner of things that Kear has got wrong over his time at the club but the above was clearly beyond his control.

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Quote: J.T "If you wouldn't take the 2 and a bit seasons we had out of Brough again with another unpredictable half back then you are mad. Tronc was top quality hardly Kear's fault he decided to bugger off and certainly not his fault the club let him walk for nothing. As for Newton yes he is/was a thug but Mystic Meg wouldn't have known he was gonna get caught doing drugs. There are a whole manner of things that Kear has got wrong over his time at the club but the above was clearly beyond his control.'"

so what about most of the other gash hes signed kears to blame

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Quote: BIGAL1 "So whats the answer then Tricky.

I question how that helps support the Club and how having no money will help in the long run, how can we sign players with less income.'"


The poor performances that Kears team have been turning in is what is driving people away, the answer is say bye bye to him and thank him for what hes has done in previous seasons (I would like him to do the decent thing and resign before he tarnishes the memory of his previous achievements by clinging onto his job cos the others he went for didn't come off)

Ted missed a chance when he tried to get compo off catalans

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "so what about most of the other gash hes signed kears to blame'"



What, the players he signed who took us to 5th in the table last year? Or are we just erasing that?

I ask you this what if, and I know it's never going to happen, Kear pulled another miracle like he did in 1324 and we won the next 3 games and made the play offs would people still want Kear gone despite being the first coach to take us to the play offs twice?

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Quote: J.T "What, the players he signed who took us to 5th in the table last year? Or are we just erasing that?

I ask you this what if, and I know it's never going to happen, Kear pulled another miracle like he did in 1324 and we won the next 3 games and made the play offs would people still want Kear gone despite being the first coach to take us to the play offs twice?'"


In a word - YES

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Quote: Tricky2309 "In a word - YES'"


Then that would be crazy. We have never done so well in the league under any other coach yes the rugby is dull but christ when did we become Manchester United/Tottenham 'we don't care about results we just want free flowing high quality rugby!' Bring back Harbin with Roe as assistant the rugby was cracking then!

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Quote: J.T "If you wouldn't take the 2 and a bit seasons we had out of Brough again with another unpredictable half back then you are mad. Tronc was top quality hardly Kear's fault he decided to bugger off and certainly not his fault the club let him walk for nothing. As for Newton yes he is/was a thug but Mystic Meg wouldn't have known he was gonna get caught doing drugs. There are a whole manner of things that Kear has got wrong over his time at the club but the above was clearly beyond his control.'"


What you appear to be saying is that JK deserves the praise for the 2 and a bit seasons of Brough, and the fantastic performances of Tronc in the first say 6 weeks are down to JK's astute transfer work,but when things go tits up its nothing to do with him? I'm sorry but in my opinion you can't have it both ways - if your responsible for player recruitment and you take the back slaps when it goes well you also carry the can when your signings go sour.

At the risk of a thread-drift and going over old ground, I thought Kear has overall control on rectuitment (both comings and goings) and is also on the board so surely he is at the very least partly to blame for one (2 if you count Broughy) of our prize assetts going for (next to) nothing?

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simple question?

the answer on which i judge JK

did he really say " get me paul cooke and brough can go?"

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Quote: J.T "Then that would be crazy. We have never done so well in the league under any other coach yes the rugby is dull but christ when did we become Manchester United/Tottenham 'we don't care about results we just want free flowing high quality rugby!' Bring back Harbin with Roe as assistant the rugby was cracking then!'"



IMO it would just highlight how poor the bottom half of the league is, if a team who has had 6 or 7 40+ points drubbings can finish in the top 8 - nothing to laud Kear for. Anyway, it ain't gonna happen so its irrelevant

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