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Quote: snowie "ok I'll humour you,
when the play the ball was made Mason was offside as he hadn't retreated the 10 metres but the ball was charged down by Crowther and that player was on side and ran past mason by a few feet the ball then went backwards, with the charge down it then puts him effectively BACK ONSIDE in which the ball was luckily bounced into his hands and away he went, do you not think that video ref see's it that way as well as professionals that were commentating at the time.
if you didn't know that ruling you do now no charge for the lesson
Unfortunately it's NOT a lesson (apart from a bad one) as you have got 2 different laws of the game confused together !!!!
As previously stated you don't seem to even know what the ball is blown up with let alone ever laced up some boots to play
That's me out out on this one with you as you don't ever seem to accept when you are wrong
Never mind though

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Quote: Luppylad "Well jolly good for you really happy for you i myself will do as i please and will say fans like yourself are a reason why the team will always fail like the ones who say we played well last night cos we certainly didnt we lost again and it was a game we should of won'"

I can say in all honesty that not once have I said anything that has made the team fail, and for what it's worth, it's a game we could have one, not should have. HTH.

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Quote: Trinhomeandaway "Please read the comments below yours,its you that's being made to look foolish hahahha
Don't think you even know what the ball is blown up with let alone the rules'"

Just in case he doesn't I'll give him a clue' it's called hot air, identical to the stuff that constantly comes from your mouth.

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Quote: happyjack "Just in case he doesn't I'll give him a clue' it's called hot air, identical to the stuff that constantly comes from your mouth.'"

Thanks,appreciate it
You keep accepting mediocrity and failure but blaming everything and everyone else,there is a reason why our club is the laughing stock of rugby.

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Quote: Trinhomeandaway "Thanks,appreciate it
You keep accepting mediocrity and failure but blaming everything and everyone else,there is a reason why our club is the laughing stock of rugby.'"

Hello Steph

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Quote: wotsupcas "Hello Steph'"

Unfortunately I have no idea what that means or who Steph is but hey ho

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Let's stay on Topic please and cut out the sniping (or PM each other if you wish)

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Quote: Trinhomeandaway "Thanks,appreciate it
You keep accepting mediocrity and failure but blaming everything and everyone else,there is a reason why our club is the laughing stock of rugby.'"

Other than the ground would you care to expand on your comment about our club being the laughing stock of rugby.

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Quote: alegend "On the bright side we can not get as many key player injured as we do ,when we play Catalans next week ,because so many are out with injuries all ready'"


That's not much of a "bright side".
The main positive of the Hull game was the performance of our pack, who, more than competed for 80 minutes and they will need to be as good or, possibly better on Friday.
It's still difficult to see how we get a win against them but, if we can keep turning them around, as Wire did yesterday, there is a (very) faint glimmer of hope.
Mind you, I'm not sure if we have enough backs available.
We have a squad "full of full backs" but, I'm not sure who will be playing at 1 or, who will be partnering Lino.

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Quote: Trinhomeandaway "Unfortunately it's NOT a lesson (apart from a bad one) as you have got 2 different laws of the game confused together !!!!
As previously stated you don't seem to even know what the ball is blown up with let alone ever laced up some boots to play
That's me out out on this one with you as you don't ever seem to accept when you are wrong
Never mind though'"



(e) he retires behind the point where the ball was last touched by one of his own team.

Crowther charged the ball and was in front of mason

so there you go now, while your at it read the rest of the rules

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Former referee Ian Smith, who until relatively recently was still working for the RFL has confirmed on twitter that the decision was wrong as he should have been deemed out of play due to not being onside at the play the ball. Apparently the video refs remit doesn’t stretch to checking offside at the play the ball so it was the on-field officials that got that wrong.

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Quote: Sacred Cow "Former referee Ian Smith, who until relatively recently was still working for the RFL has confirmed on twitter that the decision was wrong as he should have been deemed out of play due to not being onside at the play the ball. Apparently the video refs remit doesn’t stretch to checking offside at the play the ball so it was the on-field officials that got that wrong.'"

Quote: Sacred Cow "“Out of Play” as opposed to “off side” 3. Players who are out of play at a play-the-ball (Section 11), a scrum (Section 12), a kick off or drop-out (Section Indeed. It seems he was 'out of play' rather than offside.

Quote: Sacred Cow "Retire at play-the-ball (g) players of the side not in possession other than the player taking part in the play-the-ball and the acting half back are out of play if they fail to retire ten (10) metres from the point at which the ball is played or to their own goal lines. Players of the side in possession other than the player taking part in the play-the-ball and the acting halfback must retire behind their players involved in the play-the-ball or to their own goal'"
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Quote: Sacred Cow "Former referee Ian Smith, who until relatively recently was still working for the RFL has confirmed on twitter that the decision was wrong as he should have been deemed out of play due to not being onside at the play the ball. Apparently the video refs remit doesn’t stretch to checking offside at the play the ball so it was the on-field officials that got that wrong.'"
well the rules above come from the rfl and is clearly within whats in red, are you looking at Crowther being off side at the charge down or mason who was at the side of the play the ball?

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Quote: snowie "well the rules above come from the rfl and is clearly within whats in red, are you looking at Crowther being off side at the charge down or mason who was at the side of the play the ball?'"


I got my quotes above from your link to the RFL laws.

I'm sure they could make it more difficult to read if they tried.

He was technically [iout of play[/i rather than offside which is defined in section 11 and the difference is referred to in the notes at the bottom of the section you quoted- which means it is not reset by our player touching the ball in front of him.

I'm still not sure I fully understand 'downtown' which is also there and Kirmo was pinged for a couple of years ago.

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Quote: snowie "well the rules above come from the rfl and is clearly within whats in red, are you looking at Crowther being off side at the charge down or mason who was at the side of the play the ball?'"


You are mixing up 2 different rules. The bit you quoted is written for say, being in front of the kicker.

If you carry on down the page that you linked to you will find this section:

“Out of Play” as opposed to “off side” 3. Players who are out of play at a play-the-ball (Section 11), a scrum (Section 12), a kick off or drop-out (Section 8 ) a penalty kick (Section 13) or a free kick (Section 13) are not put “on side” in the manner described in para 3 above. (Seeappropriate Sections).

It's kind of ironic that you have told him to read the rest of rules whilst he's at it but didn't bother doing that yourself.

It wasn't a try, but it didn't matter in the end so I can't get too upset about it. We got lucky with the red card so it's swings and roundabouts.

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