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| Quote: DoubleAone "Well at last a considered reply many thanks.
I dont see where I have inferred anything that would suggest any club was involved directly in any wrong doing.
but neither should they benefit is my view. I dont know that ignorance of the facts is an acceptable excuse either.'"
Although i do have some sympathy for what you are suggesting.
In order for a club to be punished,they would have to be found guilty of misconduct that impinges on the integrity of the game -- which Wakefield are not.
Also,and i could be wrong on this,but the first sample taken has to be "in competition" if retraction of medals/points etc...is to be done.
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| Quote: TURFEDOUT "Although i do have some sympathy for what you are suggesting.
In order for a club to be punished,they would have to be found guilty of misconduct that impinges on the integrity of the game -- which Wakefield are not.
Also,and i could be wrong on this,but the first sample taken has to be "in competition" if retraction of medals/points etc...is to be done.'"
yes you are correct,
how can you tell or prove that a sample taken in November has influenced a result in February the following year,
to punish the club is nonsense
to all Rhino fans complaining, Wakey 3 from 3 get over it
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| Let's be honest though, if any club was systematically doping their players (which, perhaps happens, or did happen, in cycling), then having a few points deducted would be the very least of their worries!
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| Quote: TURFEDOUT "Although i do have some sympathy for what you are suggesting.
In order for a club to be punished,they would have to be found guilty of misconduct that impinges on the integrity of the game -- which Wakefield are not.
Also,and i could be wrong on this,but the first sample taken has to be "in competition" if retraction of medals/points etc...is to be done.'"
Now having consideration of the test date and the slow process of testing Wakefield are then certainly innocent of any misconduct.....
my point was they have benefited from the individuals" crime" but given the above situation then I conceed that any deduction of points would be too harsh.
In relation to other comments from Wakefield fans this was never about the particular club involved from my point of view but a general arguement about drugs in sport.
I am a big fan of JK as a coach and the clubs start to the season is a credit to him and the remaining players.
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| I reckon if I was Terry Newton I would want to find out why the governing body seem able to name the rugby league players with the findings, but not those from association football,the RFU and powerlifters.(They even name wheelchair cannabis users)
Take any one of the 109 pages rlU.K.A.D.websiterl
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| Quote: Waketrin Wild "I reckon if I was Terry Newton I would want to find out why the governing body seem able to name the rugby league players with the findings, but not those from association football,the RFU and powerlifters.(They even name wheelchair cannabis users)
Take any one of the 109 pages rlU.K.A.D.websiterl'"
Paddy Kenny makes it onto that list.
Either way it makes no ends to Newton, he cheated, for what ever reason, and got caught. Who else is named on a list is of little consequence to him. It certainly wouldn’t have saved his career.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Paddy Kenny makes it onto that list.
Either way it makes no ends to Newton, he cheated, for what ever reason, and got caught. Who else is named on a list is of little consequence to him. It certainly wouldn’t have saved his career.'"
I did notice Paddy Kenny,but with him now being at Sheffield United and outside of the Premier League he may not be considered high profile (should that be a reason for naming or not naming )
I just thought it an anomaly when everyone should be pulling in the same direction against the misuse of banned substances.I would NOT like to think that for some reason,some sportspeople are spared publicity while others are not.
Either all are named or it is kept secret between the testers and the tested and clubs throw a veil of secrecy when the bans come into force.
My own view is that all are named once a test confirms a finding.
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| Quote: Waketrin Wild "I did notice Paddy Kenny,but with him now being at Sheffield United and outside of the Premier League he may not be considered high profile (should that be a reason for naming or not naming )
I just thought it an anomaly when everyone should be pulling in the same direction against the misuse of banned substances.I would NOT like to think that for some reason,some sportspeople are spared publicity while others are not.
Either all are named or it is kept secret between the testers and the tested and clubs throw a veil of secrecy when the bans come into force.
My own view is that all are named once a test confirms a finding.'"
I agree it is a little strange that the people who have been given a suspension or fine don’t have their name 'up in lights' so to speak. It seems a little bizarre. However, I still think Newton would find little solace in these gaps being filled in.
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| Quote: Waketrin Wild "I reckon if I was Terry Newton I would want to find out why the governing body seem able to name the rugby league players with the findings, but not those from association football,the RFU and powerlifters.(They even name wheelchair cannabis users)
Take any one of the 109 pages rlU.K.A.D.websiterl'"
Other sports seem to brush these issues under the carpet....
Seems though our, well he was our, Terry was targeted, so his biggest fan writes in the Grauniadhttps://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/feb/22/terry-newton-wakefield-trinity-drugsrl
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| Quote: Waketrin Wild "(They even name wheelchair cannabis users) '"
Is that an actual sport?
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| Sorry.I should have written rlWheelchair Basketball Playersrl
I'm surprised any sport is played with all the drug testing going on and people continuing to break the rules making it more difficult and inconvenient for the next generation.
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| I read somewhere today, that the ukada had made a significant breakthrough in being able to detect hgh in blood samples.
As this naturally occurs in the blood anyway it has always been difficult for any agency to prove guilt, as it requires no masking drug it's like looking for a piece of hay in a giant stack of needles.
If they have found a new method which enables them now to spot hgh, maybe Newton will be the first of a long list, could be a few sweating a bit after this news!!!!
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| Quote: kinleycat "I read somewhere today, that the ukada had made a significant breakthrough in being able to detect hgh in blood samples.
As this naturally occurs in the blood anyway it has always been difficult for any agency to prove guilt, as it requires no masking drug it's like looking for a piece of hay in a giant stack of needles.
If they have found a new method which enables them now to spot hgh, maybe Newton will be the first of a long list, [iQuote: kinleycat "could be a few sweating a bit after this news'" [/i!!!!'"
Hopefully not in our dressing rooms.
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