There is still no evidence to support your claims either way , the fiasco of events 3 weeks ago in no way validate anything , the RFL had to make decision in a matter of hours , one they probably hadn't even considered , they may well have taken the easy option , nobody but they know , not you , not me , unlike you I didn't pretend to know

Black is actually white, the Earth is flat, John Lennon shot Kennedy, Obama is an alien and the Halifax bid was actually really good.

Oh, and Starbug is not a mentalist.

It is only speculation that we were in due to crusaders opting out. I would like to see both Wakefield and Halifax offer their reports to the public, as fans I think we deserve it. The RFL can't legally issue this as after all the clubs are businesses, disclosing details of financials etc is sticky ground. I do feel sorry for Halifax but even their fans must understand the cock ups of the previous board are being well and truly resolved now.

There is no evidence to suggest "we got in by the skin of our teeth.." either as you suggest so why say that....

This statement from Halifax goes some way to corroborating what I was told, unfortunately it doesn't offer any kind of apology to Wakefield Trinity RLFC. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

This statement from Halifax goes some way to corroborating what I was told, unfortunately it doesn't offer any kind of apology to Wakefield Trinity RLFC. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480

You are quite right , no evidence either way , my post was my opinion only , and that of the most of RL and probably 90 % of Wakefield fans as well , only opinion

Quite funny that , I'm surprised and impressed

You mean apart from the evidence from the Fax board, who publicly state "we have had feedback on our bid, we were wrong, the decision was fair".

You choose not to accept that because you don't like it.

That is the strongest evidence out there. You can't simply deny it just because it doesn't fit your seemingly entrenched position.

I do respect you Starbug but you are just been bitter here now mate... it is over and the decision is made! It is clear that the Halifax BOD now know what did happen and that would seem to validate the rumours that Halifax's bid was poor (against other bids) and was never in the running.

As for your position of maintaining that the RFL had to make a decision in a matter of hours, I think that is horse crap and I can't believe you believe that they did! The rumour is and, lets face, anyone not carrying a chip on their shoulder about it could take an educated guess at, that the KMPG report submitted a few weeks before the deadline was the catalyst for the RFL finally realising that the game could be up at Crusaders. The RFL again, according to rumour, held 'many' meetings with the Crusaders probably at first with a view to understanding if they could be saved but then as the announcement deadline loomed they then put their efforts into getting Crusaders to withdraw their bid. They knew several weeks out that they may have to make this decision as time went on, so this last minute rubbish is just that IMO... rubbish!

I actually admire your stance and I am certainly not a fan or defender of licencing!

My issue comes fom people who undermine themselves with one-eyedness and closed thinking. They marginalise themselves to the point that their often legitimate arguments, become seen as nothing more than the ramblings of fools.

No evidence because the Fax board haven't seen the Wakey bid , have they , they have been told what to say , so as not to jeopodise any future applications , but the point being , is that how it should be ? , are the sports governing body that sensitive to criticism , that they would be ' vindictive ' to any club that has a grievance , and also the fans of that club , are we all supposed to just take whatever they say , without asking Why ?

, that will work well ?

Ok , I'll leave it alone , as you are right I am coming across as bitter , and to tell the truth I am bitter , not with Wakefield Trinity Wildcats , just with the sports governing body and the way they operate