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| Quote: PopTart "It always stikes me as funny that posters comment on how bad it is that something hasn't happened yet, without knowing what the individual milestones are on the project plan. Just because the application isn't in yet, does not mean we won't get it in with the planning office in time to deliver the stadium on plan.'"
I think you are misjudging Inflatable Armadillo - he posted several weeks ago with very interesting opinions and information.
He is a Leeds supporter living in Stanley, therefore neutral, and having seen the plans he was very impressed by them, completely in favour of the development and confident the planning permission would go through.
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| Quote: Catwoman1 "I think you are misjudging Inflatable Armadillo - he posted several weeks ago with very interesting opinions and information.
He is a Leeds supporter living in Stanley, therefore neutral, and having seen the plans he was very impressed by them, completely in favour of the development and confident the planning permission would go through.'"
Thank you Catwoman.
It was purely meant to be a factual post based on first hand information of calling the planning office yesterday.
In reply to the OP I do understand that they want to start the enabling and highway works in April and this, while maybe not being on the critical path on the programme (I don't know, I have not seen it), was they said, driving the proposed stadium start in late 2010. As such, it does need to go in as soon as they feel able to submit, because if it does get called in by the Secretary of State's office, it will delay things slightly longer. You can pull back weeks, but months is harder!
Listen, I want to flog the successful Main Contractor(s) our steelwork, so in this current market place the quicker the better for me! Plus we are quite good at stadia, so I do want to get on the tender list.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Thank you Catwoman.
It was purely meant to be a factual post based on first hand information of calling the planning office yesterday.
In reply to the OP I do understand that they want to start the enabling and highway works in April and this, while maybe not being on the critical path on the programme (I don't know, I have not seen it), was they said, driving the proposed stadium start in late 2010. As such, it does need to go in as soon as they feel able to submit, because if it does get called in by the Secretary of State's office, it will delay things slightly longer. You can pull back weeks, but months is harder!
Listen, I want to flog the successful Main Contractor(s) our steelwork, so in this current market place the quicker the better for me! Plus we are quite good at stadia, so I do want to get on the tender list.'"
Your knowledge and experience is very welcome, and helps put a professional view on things. Good look with the tender.
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| Quote: Catwoman1 "I think you are misjudging Inflatable Armadillo - he posted several weeks ago with very interesting opinions and information.
He is a Leeds supporter living in Stanley, therefore neutral, and having seen the plans he was very impressed by them, completely in favour of the development and confident the planning permission would go through.'"
OK, I stand by what I said in general but I can accept that I misunderstood IA's post. No harm meant.
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| would hate to be a "stick in the mud" but if it did get referred to the secretary of state, who would be making a decision, this government or the next?? bearing in mind that the tories would probably be more in favour of the development than the people who are in now (that is my own personal opinion) and i also note that the prospective conservative candidates for both the council and mp are BOTH in favour of the development (i have no connection with either).
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| I dont know if this question has been asked already but when you apply for planning permision will it just be for your new ground or for the whole development. I am just wondering about this as if you do get pp granted for the ground how long will you have to wait untill PP is granted for the industrial side so work can start, and if that is declined then what happens ?, but if the whole thing is being applied for at the same time then that answers my question.
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| Quote: tigerman10 "I dont know if this question has been asked already but when you apply for planning permision will it just be for your new ground or for the whole development. I am just wondering about this as if you do get pp granted for the ground how long will you have to wait untill PP is granted for the industrial side so work can start, and if that is declined then what happens ?, but if the whole thing is being applied for at the same time then that answers my question.'"
The outline planning application is for the whole development as without the industrial element the construction of the stadium is not viable. If it’s declined then I have no idea whether there is an appeal process, but if not, then there is no new stadium.
If it's granted then the detailed planning application will be submitted fairly swiftly. I believe the plans for this are already well on the way.
As an aside, today’s express has Demetriou outlining his ambition to lead Wakefield out in the new stadium as long as his body holds out, and also the Express comment, under the heading ‘Vital to get behind ‘Cats’, is very supportive too;
Quote: tigerman10 "We should never take for granted the value that this city receives by having a team in the Super League. Nor should we underestimate the threat to their status.'"
Quote: tigerman10 "The city of Wakefield must fully embrace the Wildcats – they can be a huge asset – and the backing of the district council is vital in this. Firstly a concerted effort is needed to make sure the club has a stadium worthy of its long-standing and current position in the game. '"
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "The outline planning application is for the whole development as without the industrial element the construction of the stadium is not viable. If it’s declined then I have no idea whether there is an appeal process, but if not, then there is no new stadium.
If it's granted then the detailed planning application will be submitted fairly swiftly. I believe the plans for this are already well on the way.
As an aside, today’s express has Demetriou outlining his ambition to lead Wakefield out in the new stadium as long as his body holds out, and also the Express comment, under the heading ‘Vital to get behind ‘Cats’, is very supportive too;
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It took Waystone 11 Month to obtain Outline planning!!!
Good luck to Yorkcourt if they get it in 3 months
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| Quote: bigalf "It took Waystone 11 Month to obtain Outline planning!!!
Good luck to Yorkcourt if they get it in 3 months'"
Every case is different, 3 months would be of course be at the optimistic end of estimates.
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| Just thought it might be of interest but this week plans for a power station have been approved for rlNewmarket Lanerl. Methane from the Silkstone Colliery will be used to generate electricity 24 hours a day for the next 25 years. There were THREE objectors.
This perhaps bodes well for the rest of the development getting the go ahead.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Just thought it might be of interest but this week plans for a power station have been approved for rlNewmarket Lanerl. Methane from the Silkstone Colliery will be used to generate electricity 24 hours a day for the next 25 years. There were THREE objectors.
This perhaps bodes well for the rest of the development getting the go ahead.'"
ah as i thought. three genuine objectors against the stadium and rest just bitter cas fans i think
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Cas aren’t funding the stadium for themselves, they need outside investment, like Trinity, otherwise it would’ve been built already. Part of the sale of BV is going towards the new stadium. So one could say both clubs have invested heavily into making their stadiums happen.'"
Is this not happening now?
Also I am surprised none of the people"in the know" did not correct this at the time.
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| Quote: rugbyball "Is this not happening now?
Also I am surprised none of the people"in the know" did not correct this at the time.'"
The theory behind Yorkcourt acquiring BV instead of the cash coming from Cala is that the land value that transfers to their balance sheet exceeds the £2m required by WMDC.
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| Quote: bigalf "It took Waystone 11 Month to obtain Outline planning!!!
Good luck to Yorkcourt if they get it in 3 months'"
Told you so !
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| Quote: bigalf "Told you so !'"
It is very interesting looking back at some of these threads. I particularly like the ones where Sandal wild cat explains why the new government would not take Newmarket to PI. MMMMM that gets me thinking where has SWC gone????
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