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| Daddy cool it's comments like that do you no favours.
I would have thought you have probably had enough to make a comment like that if that's the case then so be it
The fans are in the dark regarding the stadium situation and the only way to get full blooded support would be to go public.
It's the only real disappointing episode in a what seems on the surface a successfully run club and the fact that you reacted in the manner you did would be a clear indication that it's got you frustrated and probably beat.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I was under the impression that the covenant on the ground restricted it use whilst we chose to remain. I regret that now we have voluntarily washed our hands we have lost the security it provided.
I would remind people once again that even if the current building was included it did not reach the threshold to build us a ground. I guess we blinked first and have weakened our position. What can we now do other than to move away, who will that hurt only the supporters not the developer, council or even our board who will be able to pass the responsibility to the new ground owners.
I hope we are not being sacrificed on the alter of self interest. I would ask if this was Ted or Glover making this decision how well do you think it would be received. I doubt we would blindly accept this decision but it was in our name so I look forward to finding out the plan the board have to ensure we stay in Super Leage at a ground that is easily accessible to those who have invested more than just money supporting Wakefield Trinity.'"
There is no such covenant and never was. It was a planning condition imposed on the housing consent on Belle Vue which expired last year.
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| Quote: lampyboy "Daddy cool it's comments like that do you no favours.
I would have thought you have probably had enough to make a comment like that if that's the case then so be it
The fans are in the dark regarding the stadium situation and the only way to get full blooded support would be to go public.
It's the only real disappointing episode in a what seems on the surface a successfully run club and the fact that you reacted in the manner you did would be a clear indication that it's got you frustrated and probably beat.'"
Does you no favours!
Some of us like the truth and plain speaking rather than your snow flake mentality.
You demand the guy is honest and fights for the club and when he is but it doesn't suit you you chastise him in the most condescending manner - unbelievable.
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| Quote: lampyboy "Daddy cool it's comments like that do you no favours.
I would have thought you have probably had enough to make a comment like that if that's the case then so be it
The fans are in the dark regarding the stadium situation and the only way to get full blooded support would be to go public.
It's the only real disappointing episode in a what seems on the surface a successfully run club and the fact that you reacted in the manner you did would be a clear indication that it's got you frustrated and probably beat.'"
What frustrates me more then anything, is the insinuation that I am in this for personal gain, or for an ego boost! Everyone involved in the stadium trust is fighting tooth and nail to get what was promised to the citizens of Wakefield. And I will continue this fight whether I am involved in the club or not. Because it's not a club matter!!! It was promised to every single citizen of Wakefield. There will be those who actually use the club as an argument against what has happened.
Finally, if you want to know everything, approach a member of the trust about joining it? These individuals are continuing this fight in their own free time. I'm pretty sure they could all find better things to do. They are all as frustrated as you are. But they deserve your unquestioned backing. Because without them we'd be in even bigger trouble.
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| Quote: Daddycool "What frustrates me more then anything, .'"
What frustrates me is that you let nobs with their own agenda, like Scarlet Pimp, draw you in.
I know when you get something on your shoe it's difficult to ignore it but keep your head up and keep moving forward. It will eventually fall off.
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| Vasthan your opinion on my post just goes to show the lengths will employ to pick an argument.
Your interpretation of my post couldn't be further from the intent of it. If you insist on commenting read and understand rather than jumping in with both feet .
I have no intention of responding in full only to say in no way was it condescending or personal.
Thank you
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "What frustrates me is that you let nobs with their own agenda, like Scarlet Pimp, draw you in.
I know when you get something on your shoe it's difficult to ignore it but keep your head up and keep moving forward. It will eventually fall off.'"
You are absolutely correct, I shouldn't.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I was under the impression that the covenant on the ground restricted it use whilst we chose to remain. I regret that now we have voluntarily washed our hands we have lost the security it provided.
I would remind people once again that even if the current building was included it did not reach the threshold to build us a ground. I guess we blinked first and have weakened our position. What can we now do other than to move away, who will that hurt only the supporters not the developer, council or even our board who will be able to pass the responsibility to the new ground owners.
I hope we are not being sacrificed on the alter of self interest. I would ask if this was Ted or Glover making this decision how well do you think it would be received. I doubt we would blindly accept this decision but it was in our name so I look forward to finding out the plan the board have to ensure we stay in Super Leage at a ground that is easily accessible to those who have invested more than just money supporting Wakefield Trinity.'"
Surely the whole reason we are leaving is that the ground is down to safety concerns and the fact that its unsuitable under RFL/Superleague rules. The club and the people of Wakefield have been let down on too many occasions. The latest combination of the sale fiasco and a new landlord who doesn't seem to want to help are the final straw. It's a case of move or be damned. To even suggest this is remotely for personal gain is probably one of the most crass things I've seen on here.
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| Quote: Daddycool "You are absolutely correct, I shouldn't.'"
You would feel better if you commented in the Phil Clarke thread!
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| Taking a look at today's Wakefield Express it presents a number of story's that could be linked .
Wakefield council intend to close sporting venues in Wakefield park and surrounding areas. Golf tennis fishing and bowls are all to be closed down from April 1st. Unfortunately it does not cover how much will be saved or how the sporting activities will be saved.
Another story involves the importance of sport for at entry levels for female participants.
Wakefield council have and will continue to decimate sport in the Wakefield area and a campaign to unite and form a united front would be a positive form of action.
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| Quote: Wildthing "You would feel better if you commented in the Phil Clarke thread!
Maybe MC will sound him out tonight
Pimp seems to have some sort of agenda against the club, funny kind of supporter, I too take exception to his post after what as been achieved since the new board took over and this sort of thing is one of the reasons I seldom post now.
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| Quote: lampyboy "Taking a look at today's Wakefield Express it presents a number of story's that could be linked .
Wakefield council intend to close sporting venues in Wakefield park and surrounding areas. Golf tennis fishing and bowls are all to be closed down from April 1st. Unfortunately it does not cover how much will be saved or how the sporting activities will be saved.
Another story involves the importance of sport for at entry levels for female participants.
Wakefield council have and will continue to decimate sport in the Wakefield area and a campaign to unite and form a united front would be a positive form of action.'"
Yes, when they have finished shutting down all of the sporting facilities and the population of the city becomes even more obese, some bright spark will be saying that we should invest in activities for young people.
The banking crash has caused no end of problems, not least 8 years of austerity cuts and it's a hole that we will still be trying to climb out of in another 10 years time.
You could write a book or film on Wakefield's quest for a new ground and the next chapter looks like it may be the defining moment for sport in the city.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I was under the impression that the covenant on the ground restricted it use whilst we chose to remain. I regret that now we have voluntarily washed our hands we have lost the security it provided.
I would remind people once again that even if the current building was included it did not reach the threshold to build us a ground. I guess we blinked first and have weakened our position. What can we now do other than to move away, who will that hurt only the supporters not the developer, council or even our board who will be able to pass the responsibility to the new ground owners.
I hope we are not being sacrificed on the alter of self interest. I would ask if this was Ted or Glover making this decision how well do you think it would be received. I doubt we would blindly accept this decision but it was in our name so I look forward to finding out the plan the board have to ensure we stay in Super Leage at a ground that is easily accessible to those who have invested more than just money supporting Wakefield Trinity.'"
You're wrong about the 'covenant' that was actually a planning condition - and your insinuations about self interest are crass and insulting; you clearly have a personal agenda, and pretty much everything you post reeks of it. I'd assume you were James Elston in disguise, but you're too articulate.
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| I have to say i don't see how MC would stand to gain from moving from BV, other than no longer having to stand the public liability insurance which i don't think anyone can begruge him for. There are questions that will need answers and in time i hope we get those but until things play out a little longer and our destination is known then i'm happy to wait.
There are fans who will follow them anywhere and will back MC whatever, there are fans who don't want to leave BV under any circumstances and will never attend again. But from speaking to quite a few this week the majority are keeping their powder dry for now and seeing how this pans out and i put myself in this category. I can neither fully support MC's stance nor chastise it as we don't yet know where we will end up or the finer details. He deserves the benefit of any doubt until we know more and only then can people truely decide if its for the best or not.
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| Not sure what MC stands to gain personally with some of these suggestions? Didn't him and CB buy the club for a small amount and underwrite the debts, then oversee them being cleared. The club has no assets beyond it's playing staff and basic equipment. There isn't a super league 'licence' and even if there was you cannot just punt one on it would belong to the RFL.
I've no idea what MC & CB are like away from the game but found them both to be polite enough around the club, and have seen both getting their hands dirty of matchdays helping out so the idea they are somehow in it for a few sovs is a bit bizarre to me. Surely any amount of money you'd be talking about wouldn't pay for the time and services of these two gentlemen with their skillsets for a period of four/five years?
Got no idea where the club is heading now other than we're playing away from BV next year, I'll just wait, see and keep supporting the lads.
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