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| Quote: Schunter "Don't be ridiculous. You don't need to start creating non truths to prove your point about how poor we are (offensively anyway), it's plain for most to see already.'"
Which is the "Non truth" ?
Have a look at the play the ball and Mason IS OFFSIDE it's plain to see,it's just they never checked that part.
As for the ref being in our pocket just have a look at the penalty count and set restart count again it's plain to see
Yes we are poor offensively but that wasn't my point.
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| Quote: lampyboy "What's annoying is we could and should be sitting on 4 points. We could and should have beaten Leeds and Hull.'"
Whilst I agree Both Leeds and Hull were there for the taking how do you work out we could amd should be sitting on 4 points ?
Whilst Leeds were missing half a team and Hull we busted after just a 5 day turn around after an extra time game we are quite simply not good enough to capitalise.
It's now become obvious it is a shootout between us and Leigh who will go down
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| Quote: Trinhomeandaway "Which is the "Non truth" ?
Have a look at the play the ball and Mason IS OFFSIDE it's plain to see,it's just they never checked that part.
As for the ref being in our pocket just have a look at the penalty count and set restart count again it's plain to see
Yes we are poor offensively but that wasn't my point.'"
You missed out the bit where Hull should have been down to 12 men, wasn't in our pocket then was he?
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| Quote: Trinhomeandaway "Which is the "Non truth" ?
Have a look at the play the ball and Mason IS OFFSIDE it's plain to see,it's just they never checked that part.
As for the ref being in our pocket just have a look at the penalty count and set restart count again it's plain to see
Yes we are poor offensively but that wasn't my point.'"
And my point wasn't about Lino being offside or not, it was about the ref 'being in our pocket'. Nonsense
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| Quote: wotsupcas "You missed out the bit where Hull should have been down to 12 men, wasn't in our pocket then was he?'"
I think yellow was the right call and yes they were down to 12 !!!
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| Quote: Schunter "And my point wasn't about Lino being offside or not, it was about the ref 'being in our pocket'. Nonsense'"
So you agree that Mason WAS OFFSIDE, thank you for that
Just take a look at the actual stats its not hard to work out.
We had everything we could have asked for last night,a busted Hull side after a 5 day turn around,Reynolds not playing, the ref giving us penalty after penalty then to top it off the ref keeping giving us set restarts.
We couldn't even capitalise on that !!!!
Never mind we go again
Next 4 games of Catalan, Leeds,Kr and Giants will in my humble opinion see us at 8 defeats after 8 games
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| Quote: Trinhomeandaway "So you agree that Mason WAS OFFSIDE, thank you for that
Just take a look at the actual stats its not hard to work out.
We had everything we could have asked for last night,a busted Hull side after a 5 day turn around,Reynolds not playing, the ref giving us penalty after penalty then to top it off the ref keeping giving us set restarts.
We couldn't even capitalise on that !!!!
Never mind we go again
Next 4 games of Catalan, Leeds,Kr and Giants will in my humble opinion see us at 8 defeats after 8 games'" you need to view the point of contact to where he was at that time and its clear enough on slow motion to see that he was just behind, that would of been picked up by the video ref but agreed it was a try, if he had been in front it wouldn't of been given its as simple as that
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| Quote: Schunter "Don't be ridiculous. You don't need to start creating non truths to prove your point about how poor we are (offensively anyway), it's plain for most to see already.'"
Don’t engage him clearly a troll whose suddenly appeared from nowhere, he will go when nobody surrenders to his attention seeking.
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| You can’t question the effort in defence. It was a gritty and determined display by the lads. However, it was yet another game where we had weight of possession, had decent field position and were camped on the oppo’s line yet failed to capitalise. In that first half we should have notched up at least two or three tries. In the second half our cluelessness when we were near to Hull’s line meant that we spurned decent opportunities to score points. It’s a win we have let slip through our fingers because let’s make no bones about it - Hull were there for the taking.
Gutsy / unstructured / no finesse - the commentators say the same things every time they see us play. And they are right; for far too long now we seem to have a ‘turn up and it will be alright on the night’ mentality when it comes to our attack. It’s so obvious what is missing from our game – CC, or someone, needs to instil some rigid structure into our attacking play. We need to take it back to basics on the training paddock if we are going to start winning games. We need to be watching the top ESL and NRL teams when they play, identify the plays they put on to unlock defences and replicate them to the tee. We need to practice those plays again and again and again until the lads can run them with their eyes closed. Those plays will break down defences and then the lads can try some of their off the cuff stuff. However, they have to earn the right to play in that fashion by working for one another and being disciplined in attack in the first instance; and the responsibility for getting that first bit right falls fairly and squarely on CC’s shoulders.
There was one positive aspect of our attacking play tonight; our last play kicking options were much improved and better than they’ve been for some time. However, until we address the fundamental problems we have with ball in hand, it does not matter how many times we manage to obtain repeat sets because we simply don’t cross the line enough times to win games.
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| Quote: snowie "you need to view the point of contact to where he was at that time and its clear enough on slow motion to see that he was just behind, that would of been picked up by the video ref but agreed it was a try, if he had been in front it wouldn't of been given its as simple as that'"
I've viewed it numerous times and he is absolutely not square at the play the ball and that is 100% fact
If you are saying that because the video ref looked at the try and gave it then it must have been the correct decision that's OK but then can you please tell me why everyone is complaining about the sin binning because with your theory then you must agree that the yellow card was also correct because the video ref viewed it
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| Quote: wotsupcas "You missed out the bit where Hull should have been down to 12 men, wasn't in our pocket then was he?'"
Point of note, the video referee gave the decision on review, not Thaler. We got a very good rub from Ben i don’t think that can be in doubt. Doubt we’ll get better thia season, we really should have had that one.
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| Quote: Trinhomeandaway "I've viewed it numerous times and he is absolutely not square at the play the ball and that is 100% fact
If you are saying that because the video ref looked at the try and gave it then it must have been the correct decision that's OK but then can you please tell me why everyone is complaining about the sin binning because with your theory then you must agree that the yellow card was also correct because the video ref viewed it'" I can't help it if you can't grasp the rules of the game, we have officials that made that decision, what you need to do as learn the rules of the game as its making you look foolish now
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| Quote: snowie "I can't help it if you can't grasp the rules of the game, we have officials that made that decision, what you need to do as learn the rules of the game as its making you look foolish now'"
Why, he’s right. The officials didn’t take the review back far enough to see where he was at the play the ball. Lino was caught behind the play previous play the ball as such should have been out of play. The fact that he was behind Crowther at the time if the charge down is irrelevant, he was never onside in the first place. We got lucky and some would say it’s about time.
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| Quote: Luppylad "Really dont get some people how can it be said we played well.is it just because score was close we had all the ball and most of it in there 30,the ref did what he could for us we got alot of resets and pens.hull attacked our line twice in second half scored both times.hull really where there for the taking they played a full extra time game on sunday we have had 2 extra days to prepare.its another game lost we should be winning like the leeds game.'"
What a silly statement, maybe you've got used to the poor standard of refereeing in a lot of our games that when we get the 50/50 calls you seem to think the ref is doing us a favour and showing untoward bias in our favour, personally It's my belief that if I've nothing good to say I'd sooner keep quiet than criticise for the sake of it, you can of course take comfort in the fact your in a majority if it helps you, try getting behind the club for a change, or you could always stop watching.
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| Quote: Trinhomeandaway "Which is the "Non truth" ?
Have a look at the play the ball and Mason IS OFFSIDE it's plain to see,it's just they never checked that part.
As for the ref being in our pocket just have a look at the penalty count and set restart count again it's plain to see
Yes we are poor offensively but that wasn't my point.'"
You must have a different Television to me, because they definitely checked it on my tele, and as for Thaler being in our pocket, would you like to make a comment on the sin binning as against a sending off, as for your point, you don't really have one do you.
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