The bit that struck me as odd was his statement that Wakefield Council did not give planning permission for the development at Newmarket, that was granted by the Conservatives (Eric Pickles).
My understanding was that the public enquiry made a recommendation, however Wakefield MDC are the planning authority and therefore still responsible for granting the planning permission. Does anyone know if that's correct as it is a big part of his argument over the difference between Cas's deal and Wakefield's deal.

My blood was boiling watching him speak and he has only reinforced my opinion that he is a bully and my hope that he gets what all bullies deserve.

I get the impression Box is resorting to pedantics in his statements to twist the public view, aswell as picking and choosing what points he addresses. One thing that struck me as quite aggressive was him saying to Councillor Ahmed - 'you don't have a clue at all do you...NOT A CLUE!' - not very diplomatic, and very bully boy.

What an unedifying experience - if only because it reinforces the view that local politics is dominated by thick as mince grandees who are happy to ride on the gravy train for as long as possible, without affecting any positive change for the communities they purport to serve.

With regard to the specifics - Mr Box is an aggressive, lecturing bully; that's not news. What is interesting is how he skates over 2 fundamental issues: 1. If the Council can't enforce the UU until the trigger of 60k m2 has been developed, why did they collude with the developer and use planning chicanery to help them avoid reaching that trigger point with the Newcold development? And 2 - he glibly refers to Mr Hussein as the 'new owner of Belle Vue' - but fails to mention WMDC's role in ensuring that he became the new owner partway through the process; if the club hadn't been tricked into not bidding on BV, WT would own it now and the whole thing would be much more straightforward.

And on another note - with friends like Cllr Ahmed, who needs enemies; he can't even articulate the arguments in any coherent way, and appears to be relying on press releases for his pre-meeting briefing material, which is very poor indeed.

It was mentioned at a meeting I was at, where MC, Chris B and Ian B were also present. They will confirm that this was the figure mentioned. Peter Box was not at that meeting, but Denise Jeffery and Andy Wallhead were and it was Andy that gave us that figure. This is the only figure we have ever been given and also, we don't have a single scrap of paper with anything in writing from them what-so-ever... absolutely nothing!

Worked in education Bren and had to tolerate throughout my career the antics and bullying of local councillors.
Recently attended a planning meeting where discussion ,if you can call it that, took place re. industrial development adjacent to my home.
Most could hardly string two words together, all were inaudible, and all had obviously decided (been instructed) which way to vote.
Utterly disgraceful.

Delapidation is the matter here and,should we leave, are negotiable.

Interesting that Andy Wallhead mentioned the figure of £500.000, Peter Box started this has never been mentioned by himself. I strongly believe that MC, CB and the Council can get round the table and negotiate a deal. Forget the deal that Cas have, it isn’t going to happen for us. Another point to throw in the ring, what about Clark’s Brewery taking up square footage at Newmarket in 2018, how much are they having?
If the Council are going to go ahead and build the Stadium at Belle Vue, it will be a white elephant as no one would be able to afford the rent on the basis that Andy Wallhead has come up with a figure of £500k for us(allegedly) pro rata no one will be able to afford to rent it, see Emley FC paying £500k a year. So our bargaining hand is that we would offer ourselves up as the anchor tenants but at a proper rent which we would pay to the Trust. The Council will get their money back in rates from Newmarket and the proposed development around the new Stadium at Belle Vue built by 88M. To me it’s a no brainer , no High Court but a negotiated agreement.

All makes perfect sense, the one issue is the council in collusion with Yorkcourt and RW don't want the stadium built. Yorkcourt I understand why. I'll leave it up others to formulate why the other two don't.

Another point to throw in the ring, what about Clark’s Brewery taking up square footage at Newmarket in 2018, how much are they having?

What the brewery proposes does not go anywhere near to reching the trigger point unfortunately!

I am sure I will be corrected but we can all agree that currently the basis for building a stadium at Newmarket is still to be reached.
We argue that the council are letting the people of Wakefield down by not building a community facility. I am sure that the council have stated that they still intend to develop Belle Vue as a community stadium. The difference is that it will be a simpler design if we are not staying.
Please correct me if I am wrong but all the arguments we are putting forward appear to be answered with the possible exception that it was the agreement that we must be the anchor tenants in any community stadium at the peppercorn rate indicated.

Whilst, in isolation, it changes nothing, it should be remembered that the build-out trigger is not the MINIMUM that must be reached before a build must take place; it's the MAXIMUM allowed before a build has to take place.

It's a small, but important detail.

The government loan, suggested by Mr Carter, could be taken right now and the Newmarket stadium built!l

It's warehousing as well as brewery more of a storage facility, a north east company has taken them and fam over. It's definitely happening next year don't know how big the unit is but imagine fairly substantial.

Up the Trin

Is this shown in the minutes?

For clarity: I understand that it would be the Community Trust that has the lease on a peppercorn rent.
The Club's involvement is as anchor tenant to the Community Trust and, as such, the amount of rent would be determined between these two parties.
I cannot see how any other party would or should have a financial interest in the stadium.

Where are all these extra Community sports facilities that are going to be potentially built down at Belle Vue? That's where the wider Community at large was going to get access and use of at the Newmarket development. Yes the stadium was going to be anchored by Trinity, but what's in it for the rest of Wakefield. Except for Trinity fans, I can't see who else who'd use Belle Vue as a Community Stadium. As I've pointed out before, from what the Council put out a couple of weeks ago, it mentions that Trinity would have to put money into the redevelopment if we stay. So how would that all work, considering we wouldn't own it and they want us to pay a crazy rent on top. Quite a difference from what was meant to happen at Newmaket, to what we'd get and have to pay for at Belle Vue, especially when it's meant to be getting paid by Yorkcourts pockets eventually anyway.