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| Quote: JINJER "Think the one you have in mind affects your eye sight! It's another 'ing.'"
Killed Roy Castle; passive smirking!!!
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| Quote: kinleycat "Killed Roy Castle; passive smirking!!!'"
Yeah that was a sad day for Leeds United they never could get a good a replacement in midfield
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| Quote: seal "If Wakefield and Castleford ever merged, i would go support Dewsbury without hesitation. No hybrid-mongrel club for me thanks.'"
Totally. The end of my concern with RL to be honest. I'd just jack it all in because we would have finally whored ourselves to sky beneath contempt. That said, we should have set up a ground share at a mutually agreed site 8 years ago. Been blathering on about it in the express and the pub and my dad's living room for a decade at least. It was a no brainer. It's too late now
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| The ground share option is available now! It just happens Cas don't want it! GH as has been proven was never an option as they couldn't fund it.
Thornes Park would have been ideal from a sporting perspective but it wasn't to be. NM will bring the district much needed facilities for little cost. The only downside is its a little out of the way.
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| Quote: charlie63wildcat "Totally. The end of my concern with RL to be honest. I'd just jack it all in because we would have finally whored ourselves to sky beneath contempt. That said, we should have set up a ground share at a mutually agreed site 8 years ago. Been blathering on about it in the express and the pub and my dad's living room for a decade at least. It was a no brainer. It's too late now'"
NM was offered on a shared basis BEFORE it was revealed publicly. Cas didn't want it at the time as they were, in their own minds, well on their way with GH. IF it had been announced then as a JOINT effort, PERHAPS it would have been saleable to both sets of fans. The minute that failed it was never gonna be for clubs.
I personally prefer separate stadiums - as much for the identity of Cas as for us. RL should remain within the communities it serves - NM is just about in Wakey, but is not considered part of Cas. GH is certainly not part of Wakey!!!
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| Some of the comments on both sets of fans are quite cringe worthy but are expected due to the rivalry
To be totally honest I could be jealous of what Cas can achieve by redeveloping their original own ground but this will only be done by funding by a wealthy backer.
Belle Vue isn't going to support Wakefield for the future if its too stay in super league as you have to look at the full Newmarket development to understand that is more than a match day experience. It will be a heart breaker to leave but leave we must.
good luck to Cas in their plans to stay at WR
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| Should the RFL not assist in the Case project - following their involvement in Bradford?
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| Quote: TRB "Should the RFL not assist in the Case project - following their involvement in Bradford?'"
I dont think that they have started building new stadia yet TRB.
In Castlefords case and with the benefit of hindsight, they probably should have gone down this route to start with, although it may be a while before we see any major changes down
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The idea was only muted this week and it didn't appear that any plans were in place, more that it was an alternative to Glasshoughton.
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| Question for Wakefield fans
If 133 years ago we had moved to a new ground at or near Newmarket Colliary and today we were talking about moving to a new stadium on the current Belle Vue site
Would you think that we were doing the right thing to move away from the motorway links in order to relocate the club in Agbrigg?
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| Quote: The Clan "Question for Wakefield fans
If 133 years ago we had moved to a new ground at or near Newmarket Colliary and today we were talking about moving to a new stadium on the current Belle Vue site
Would you think that we were doing the right thing to move away from the motorway links in order to relocate the club in Agbrigg?'"
It's just the luddite factor.
Human nature makes most people nervous of change and most of us have very fond memories of BV, together with a tried and tested matchday routine.
Having said that, for our club to progress, there is no alternative so, onwards and upwards.
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| Quote: The Clan "Question for Wakefield fans
If 133 years ago we had moved to a new ground at or near Newmarket Colliary and today we were talking about moving to a new stadium on the current Belle Vue site
Would you think that we were doing the right thing to move away from the motorway links in order to relocate the club in Agbrigg?'"
Of course we wouldn't but thats not the only consideration that such a decision is made on.
Personally i think NM holds some great potential, however it also is a risk that is undeniable.
I'm not privy to the financial facts of either staying at BV or moving to NM or what that means to the club, the people that are have made the decision based on us being kicked out of SL if we don't move.
That threat may now have diminished, i trust the people who are making the decision to factor that change into the equation and if it is still the best option to move to NM then that is fine, if not there is no harm in changing our mind if it benefits the club on all fronts.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "It's just the luddite factor.
Human nature makes most people nervous of change and most of us have very fond memories of BV, together with a tried and tested matchday routine.
Having said that, for our club to progress, there is no alternative so, onwards and upwards.'"
I disagree.
The main reason courted by JE is the threat to our SL existence by staying at NM.
Of course being in a purpose built site should hold other financial opportunities as well, but it will also hold significant risk too.
BV has shown what it is capable of under AGs leadership, and people in the RL world have taken note.
I want to make it clear I'm not against NM at all, but the landscape has changed, and it now deserves due consideration.
If the answer is still move to NM, thats fine, i just don't want us to march on regardless without giving it sufficient thought.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "It's just the luddite factor.
Human nature makes most people nervous of change and most of us have very fond memories of BV, together with a tried and tested matchday routine.
Having said that, for our club to progress, there is no alternative so, onwards and upwards.'"
That's partly why I ask the question, no matter where we move, with the exception of a City centre location, there will be uncertainty and trepidation over it.
Belle Vue certainly isn't the best location for a modern professional Sports Club and we really need to relocate somewhere more conducent to the future development of Wakefield Trinity.
IMO, even if the RFL relax or completely remove the stadia element of franchise applications we shouldn't start second guessing the move to Newmarket because we're uncomfortable with the unknown.
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| Quote: kinleycat "I disagree.
The main reason courted by JE is the threat to our SL existence by staying at NM.
Of course being in a purpose built site should hold other financial opportunities as well, but it will also hold significant risk too.
BV has shown what it is capable of under AGs leadership, and people in the RL world have taken note.
I want to make it clear I'm not against NM at all, but the landscape has changed, and it now deserves due consideration.
If the answer is still move to NM, thats fine, i just don't want us to march on regardless without giving it sufficient thought.'"
You are right that the landscape has changed but, come the next round of franchises, many of the same issues that were present at the last round will still remain.
It does look less likely that an exsisting SL club will be dropped but, our governing body is more then capable of turning 360 degrees and whatever our friends over the common are saying and regardless of what may have been muted by the RFL, there is no doubt that a new ground offers better prospects for the future.
Like you, I have no knowledge of the financial implications of staying vs moving but, as many have said, potential for visiting fans (and home supporters) is far greater in a modern purpose built stadium.
Just as a quick comparison and we may not be going again in the near future but, faced with a trip to the old Hilton Park or to the Sports villiage at Leigh ,which ground would you prefer to watch a game of RL ?
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