Was saying to my mate the other day that you would think that one of the fringe players would give it a go, stay behind after training (instead of going to Costa) and spend an hour or so practicing kicking. If they are on the fringe of first team and prove they can kick they would almost certainly get stepped up.
The lack of goalkicking options at present is clear and will cost us games this year.

Giving kicking duties to someone who doesn't really want to do it isn't the way forward either.

Another eventual option might be to play Johns in the centre for while with Wood at half back and giving Ellis a run.
From there he may be able to drift in and out of stand off in much the same way as Keith Smith used to.Would also give the oppositoon a little more to think about.

If as a club we don't have a kicker then can we atleast add some humour! perhaps the lads should take it in turns kicking like they do with penalties at teh end of a footie match. If one of them gets one over he should continue until he misses?

Collis was a back up kicker in his time at West Tigers... Worth a shot?

Obviously not, or I assume he'd be taking them?

Ben Gledhill can kick, in fact he's very good.

Completely agree. I've seen some good signs of him taking on the defensive line and on several occasions just going right through them, and that didn't happen too often last year. Remember everyone it's early days yet but for me the half back setup shows real promise - give them more time, less pressure, more encouragement. Let's recognise what they can do and not criticise them for not matching ridiculous pie-in-the-sky expectations.

perhaps johns confidence went after throwing the interception pass. why not send him out on loan for a game when weve got wire away.

Absolutely spot on, said basically the same earlier. How often have payer from down under taken a few games to settle, I can't think of too many that have even hit the ground running especially in the pivotal positions. May be if we took the goal kicking duties away from him it will probably do him a world of good and clear his mind to do the job we paid him.
As far as Tim, he seems to be a bit of a easy target for some reason, even though he's been targeted totally wrongly. I've been really impressed with his attitude and he's settling in very well and been at the crux of most of the tries so far, he's improved his defense as well, which is pleasing.

Some of the criticism of Smith has been OTT, think he looks like the best halfback we have had since Brough

Have to agree smith has had a hand in alot of the plays and directed the team around quite well. His defence has been reasonable too being used as third man in which is good tactics.

John needs time, sure he will show us more soon.

We are not struggling to score points or create breaks. It's the defence that has let us down and kick defence vs Bradford. That drops on the centre, wing, fullback toes for the respective targeted side.

To be honest that is like Eddie Large standing next to Rick Whaller and claiming to be slimmer of the year.
Completely fed up of players that have got no balls its embarrassing. Smith grow a pair and take somebody on - you know try to beat a man instead of gobbing off and pointing all over the place before dollying the ball out.

Yeah cos saying that is really going to help isn't it?

TRB - Has someone hacked your account? This has always been a discussion forum but you have in the past criticised others for negativity.

With regards the point made about Smith, IMO we need to decide which half back we want to do what, as I don't think having two half backs doing the same role works. John seems the more naturally suited to take on the line (and there were signs of this improving on Sunday), whilst Smith does seem to be more of an organiser (but still with the ability to create something), although his kicking game needs to get better. Both have contributed individually in different games, but not both together to any real effect yet - I believe this will come as the season progresses.