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Quote: chapster "again we must stop this...........without top 8 finishes and 8,000 averages we have no club to support.

widnes have a shiny stadium...not in SL
leigh do....Ditto
doncaster do and look what good it did them!

I know we want one but this blinkered idead that it will keep WTRLFC afloat on its own is madness, its important but if people dont want to watch the product it will be full of bloody cobwebs in 6 months!'"
so we have to market the product of which at the moment the place is a run down loved shamble, and a team out on its feet not even half way through the season,

we ought to start looking for players that want to make the big time from below the super league rather than the ones that think they have a god forbidden right to be there, why hasn't someone viewed Jessie Joe Parker who seems to want top score tries for fun icon_stupid.gif

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Quote: snowie "so we have to market the product of which at the moment the place is a run down loved shamble, and a team out on its feet not even half way through the season,

we ought to start looking for players that want to make the big time from below the super league rather than the ones that think they have a god forbidden right to be there, why hasn't someone viewed Jessie Joe Parker who seems to want top score tries for fun
exactly snowie, this isnt trolls moaning now, its full fledged die-hards, of which until a few weeks ago i always thought id be 1, if we assume tronc brough and newton were 3 of the top earners, with morrison being the other in the top 4, theres either cash to spend or its backs to the wall, id accept either, but right now i want some honesty!

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Quote: chapster "exactly snowie, this isnt trolls moaning now, its full fledged die-hards, of which until a few weeks ago i always thought id be 1, if we assume tronc brough and newton were 3 of the top earners, with morrison being the other in the top 4, theres either cash to spend or its backs to the wall, id accept either, but right now i want some honesty!'"
for one it not the right time to bring in players of any substance, we are going to have to make do with want we have unless there is a player that is unsettled I now of none icon_sad.gif
sonny bill williams might be praised away from RU but at what price and one man standing alone is worth naff all, get some players that show they want to play for us

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Quote: snowie "for one it not the right time to bring in players of any substance, we are going to have to make do with want we have unless there is a player that is unsettled I now of none
wierd but i wish scott grix was still here
he had his faults as a winger but i honestly thought hed die if it meant winning each week!

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Quote: chapster "wierd but i wish scott grix was still here
he had his faults as a winger but i honestly thought hed die if it meant winning each week!'"
yep he also had faults at full back, , and stand off icon_lol.gif but I now where your coming from

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Quote: chapster "again we must stop this...........without top 8 finishes and 8,000 averages we have no club to support.

widnes have a shiny stadium...not in SL
leigh do....Ditto
doncaster do and look what good it did them!

I know we want one but this blinkered idead that it will keep WTRLFC afloat on its own is madness, its important but if people dont want to watch the product it will be full of bloody cobwebs in 6 months!'"


Chappie, you're right, but the two go hand in hand.

Without the new Stadium we will not get a franchise is 2012 and there is not a cat in hells chance of getting back even if we manage to get a new Stadium later on for the 2015 franchise round. If we do not get a planning consent in time to secure building and a franchise for 2012 then the club is finished. We have sold the ground and received part of the proceeds so we will either have to pay the developer back, but with what, or more likely fold. It cannot be stressed enough how important the Stadium is to our future.

That said, I agree with you about what's on the field. We are in the entertainment business, if we don't entertain then people stop coming as I fear they are already doing. We have to sort out the product on the field or we may be watching a team in a nice new but empty Stadium - but not for long.

I know I'm stating the obvious but at the moment I'm a bit brassed off. I've not been today, which is not like me, but I just could not face a 3 hour drive down to watch my team get beat (I could have been wrong and boy would I have been happy) and then 3 hours back up the M1 feeling sorry for myself (and all the other fans).

I've never felt so depressed and even the thought of a holiday to Florida is not cheering me up as they said on the news that the last time this Volcano errupted it lasted 6 months.

I think I'll have a drink or two. icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:

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Quote: Sandal Cat "Chappie, you're right, but the two go hand in hand.

Without the new Stadium we will not get a franchise is 2012 and there is not a cat in hells chance of getting back even if we manage to get a new Stadium later on for the 2015 franchise round. If we do not get a planning consent in time to secure building and a franchise for 2012 then the club is finished. We have sold the ground and received part of the proceeds so we will either have to pay the developer back, but with what, or more likely fold. It cannot be stressed enough how important the Stadium is to our future.

That said, I agree with you about what's on the field. We are in the entertainment business, if we don't entertain then people stop coming as I fear they are already doing. We have to sort out the product on the field or we may be watching a team in a nice new but empty Stadium - but not for long.

I know I'm stating the obvious but at the moment I'm a bit brassed off. I've not been today, which is not like me, but I just could not face a 3 hour drive down to watch my team get beat (I could have been wrong and boy would I have been happy) and then 3 hours back up the M1 feeling sorry for myself (and all the other fans).

I've never felt so depressed and even the thought of a holiday to Florida is not cheering me up as they said on the news that the last time this Volcano errupted it lasted 6 months.

I think I'll have a drink or two. icon_lol.gif

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I think I'll have a drink or two.
way ahead of you!

FFS im even considering not doing perpignian!!!!!!

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We were very poor today. There didn't seem to be much creativity from the half backs. The only bright spot I could see today was Korki. He ran it in hard and seemed to make yards every time.

I really don't know where our season is going (perhaps it's already gone). We don't seem to have any creative spark. As of now I don't feel like going to the KC next Friday, but ask me again next Thursday icon_wink.gif

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Quote: snowie "without that we don't have a club to support'"

We may or may not have a club without it, and I'm not on here to undermine anyone, but we also have a club to watch until that happens, and we all know our gates could be improved.
A marquee signing (or at least a decent sized tent!!) could lift gates, morale and our season!!!!

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Quote: chapster "spot on! id go every game no matter what we were doing if that happened!'"

A bit of honesty goes a long way, so does an extra body or two on the turfs!!!

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We need a stadium but no good if team on field not performing, we need more creativity, better defence, less errors, also, keep John Kear, if he goes who will we appoint ?, maybe its time to drop a couple of players and put a bit more youth in there, some people say too early to blood them etc, Leeds, Wigan and Saints did it and it worked.

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Quote: RDM "We can all say what if. What if Newton hadn't been stupid & taken HGH? What if we hadn't sold Brough? What if Mrs Tronc hadn't been "homesick"? But the fact is we have to go with the 17 that JK picks on the day.

Today's 17 weren't at the races defensively in the first half, but they improved in the second (no doubt after a bollocking from JK). We had a chance to win the game where we had a 3 on 1 overlap but thanks to "Captain Fantastic" got try line fever and blew it.

Yes it was me shouting at JD after the match. I'll give him credit for coming over, accepting his mistake and apologising for it, but that's all we have to show for our cup campagin this year - an apology.

JK has a hell of a lot of work to do if our season is going to be brought back on track. Leeds are starting to perform to their usual standards and if we don't improve quickly I fear that Wakey fans going to Murrayfield will see us concede a cricket score.

If players are going to be brought in they need to be brought in very damn quickly, if not the players should be told that they are the one's who need to work out who's going to bring some creativity on to the pitch for the rest of the season. If they can't do that this year, there'll be little point bringing creativity in next year because we'll have already sealed our fate in the applications for a 2012 franchise.'"
actually mate i was stood at the side of you. you were an embarrassment. screaming abuse at the players you profess to support. you crapped yourself when jd walked over. your a.se fell out. the guy looked at you as he walked all the way over. you shut your mouth and said quietly "well you didn't play very well , did you ?" in a pathetic child like little voice. the guy said to you "whats your problem, i made a mistake" . he made no apology, you are lieing. he acted in a proper manner like a proper man. you acted like a lout and should be ashamed. actually jd had a decent game. if you are going to say things on here then at least keep it factual and truthfull, you get more respect that way.

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