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| Can you answer my questions made to you on page 25?
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| Quote: Willzay "And I’ve come to accept that yourself and a few others on here are stuck in your old fashioned and outdated views on society.
If you feel threatened by a movement wanting equality and to end discrimination of their skin that’s your problem.'"
No, my problem is, the means by which this fascist black lives movement intend to achieve their ambition. I think it’s time for the silent majority to find their voice again. Chamberlain tried appeasement with fascists, remind me how that went.
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| Quote: MatthewTrin "Heinrich Himmler would have loved people with your frame of mind.'"
Watch where you go with that MT.
I'm more than happy for the debate but little digs like that will soon get it stopped......or at least your involvement in it.
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| Quote: MatthewTrin "Found the pic of the guy releaving himself, if the context of the photograph is true then that's unacceptable. I don't know however see how a tit for tat argument solves anything. Can we not accept that they're are wrong uns on both sides? During a Pandemic when so may ordinary people have made so many sacrifices and could be still at risk of this virus, do you think it's acceptable behavior for groups of people to be mass protesting irrelevant of the cause i.e. black lives matter or protecting British statues/ memorials?'"
After the Government said “sod it” to social distancing during the Cummings saga, and people flocking to the beaches on a daily basis, yes I do. And I argue that the cause isn’t irrelevant. We are in the 21st century and racism is as strong as it’s ever been - the cops involved with the murder of George Floyd clearly weren’t concerned with COVID-19.
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| Quote: Willzay "After the Government said “sod it” to social distancing during the Cummings saga, and people flocking to the beaches on a daily basis, yes I do. And I argue that the cause isn’t irrelevant. We are in the 21st century and racism is as strong as it’s ever been - the cops involved with the murder of George Floyd clearly weren’t concerned with COVID-19.'"
Wow i'll be honest, i'm lost for words
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| Quote: MatthewTrin "Wow i'll be honest, i'm lost for words'"
Why’s that then? Racism has been killing people for hundreds of years.
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| Surely all can see through Willzay's crazy rantings. Troll. Stop biting.
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| Quote: Miro "Statues to pollution ??? I didn't say that. I was referring to the "whole of the world" contributing to pollution therefore it must be ok??? Your logic as you believe signing up to the "pandemic" by the "whole world" makes it ok.
You can't have it both ways. I wonder what the else the "whole world" has signed up to over history that has been ok. Now the whole world once believed that..........go on, you fill in the blanks.
"Using Hitler as a justification for anything is a bit poor really." Why ? Tell me why using Using Hitler as a justification for anything is "a bit poor really."
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“To conquer a nation, first disarm its citizens.” Adolf Hitler.[/i
Stuck at home for weeks on end, not allowed to congregate, believing good ole Boris and Bill (the unellected Bill Gates) will save us, not questioning the aims of the rulers. pretty much an example of "disarming a nation" or well on the way to it.
Please look over my previous posts, I have given many links.
How about this one from Robert F Kennedy, jnr
Don't get me wrong, I'm asking questions to understand your point because I don't get it. It will help me form my answer.
I certainly don't think the BBC are in some conspiracy.
Reading the blog I find it interesting I just don't come to the same conclusions.
The "getting people to think your way" is nothing new. If they used some mind control drugs I'd be with you but freedom means they can encourage you to think their way. It's my choice whether to follow.
It's only the same as wearing your best shirt to look good on a night out so people are more drawn to you. They just do it better. If they do something illegal to do it, then I'll be protesting..... From my chair probably.
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| What a stupid thread. Are these people wanting David Icke in as a motivator for Trinity?
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| Quote: Manuel "What a stupid thread. Are these people wanting David Icke in as a motivator for Trinity?'"
That's next on Wilzeys agenda.
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| Quote: PopTart "Don't get me wrong, I'm asking questions to understand your point because I don't get it. It will help me form my answer.
I certainly don't think the BBC are in some conspiracy.
Reading the blog I find it interesting I just don't come to the same conclusions.
The "getting people to think your way" is nothing new. If they used some mind control drugs I'd be with you but freedom means they can encourage you to think their way. It's my choice whether to follow.
It's only the same as wearing your best shirt to look good on a night out so people are more drawn to you. They just do it better. If they do something illegal to do it, then I'll be protesting..... From my chair probably.'"
I don't think you understand the power of, lets say marketing, promoting, advertisements, propoganda. Billions is spent upon persuading people to part with there hard earned cash. Yes, we have freedom of choice but trust me, they don't spend billions on the understanding that people simply have free choice. It's a whole lot more complicated than that, As this scamdemic has show,
The BBC....They lie. How? they lie by ommision. an example..during Brexit, Hardly a mention, if any, of the terrible "yellow vests" demonstrations in Paris or the Catalonian demonstrations. Maybe before Brexit but certainly not during, a situation I was monitoring. Why? Because it did not fit there pro remain stance. I mean, we could hardly be allowed to see how disgruntled the French were at that time. Notice how they also made sure EU flags were flying in the background of outside broadcasts. Yeah, very subtle.
As for the anti antisemitism attacks on Jeremy Corbin at every interview...the mind doth boggle. We, in this household, sat screaming at the television..."B........x to that, what about the workers?" (or words to that effect)
A "conspiracy" takes many forms. Though to be fair I never used that term.
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| For those here and in the media who love to use Italy as a yardstick for how "devastating" the C_19 virus is...just consider the report below.
I often say “follow the money” but lets add to that “follow the pollution”. Add to this the mis diagnosis of the disease on many death certificates and a whole different picture arrases.
Just how bad is pollution in Italy?
The countries with the worst pollution are....wait for it....China, Iran, India (and a few tiny countries) All cited when the worst of the virus is reported.
Again I provide links.
. A report in 2018 showed that air quality levels were a red alert for Italy. Way back in early 2011, officials reported that pollution in Italy was reaching crisis levels.
What's particularly troublesome is particle pollution that pervades Italy, and accounts for breathing and heart problems, causing a whopping 9% of deaths of Italians over the age of 30.
In Northern Italy, including big cities like Milan and Turin, has some of the ]worst pollution in all of Europe[/b]. In December 2017, both cities introduced traffic restrictions to try and reduce the impact of smog and air pollution.
Northern cities including Brescia, Lodi, Monza and Venice topped the pollution chart as Italy's environmental agency warned of a pollution "red alert".
Smog and pollution are choking Italian cities year-round and many towns are exceeding their limits on fine particles and other pollution, according to a new report from Italian environmental authority Legambiente.
Its annual report, published this week, warned that 2018's figures were a “red alert" for Italy.
At least one of two daily pollution limits, on fine particles and ozone emissions, was exceeded in 55 of Italy’s regional capitals.
Unsurprisingly many of Italy’s big cities exceeded the limits. Venice was ranked fourth, closely followed by Milan, Turin and Padua. Rome was 28th and Naples 29th on the list.
Almost all of the worst affected cities are in northern Italy. Frosinone, south of Rome and an emerging centre of industry, falls outside Italy's traditional “industrial triangle” in the north-west, as does Macerata in Campania and the Sicilian town of Enna.
LETS FACE IT.even a mild dose of flu is enough to push that 9% deaths figure way over the edge.
So why are we in Wakefield copping for this tragedy in Italy.
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| Genuine question Willzay. What inequalities do you think there are with the black community? I've asked my black friends and got their answers.
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| Quote: Miro "For those here and in the media who love to use Italy as a yardstick for how "devastating" the C_19 virus is...just consider the report below.
I often say “follow the money” but lets add to that “follow the pollution”. Add to this the mis diagnosis of the disease on many death certificates and a whole different picture arrases.
Just how bad is pollution in Italy?
The countries with the worst pollution are....wait for it....China, Iran, India (and a few tiny countries) All cited when the worst of the virus is reported.
Again I provide links.
. A report in 2018 showed that air quality levels were a red alert for Italy. Way back in early 2011, officials reported that pollution in Italy was reaching crisis levels.
What's particularly troublesome is particle pollution that pervades Italy, and accounts for breathing and heart problems, causing a whopping 9% of deaths of Italians over the age of 30.
In Northern Italy, including big cities like Milan and Turin, has some of the ]worst pollution in all of Europe[/b]. In December 2017, both cities introduced traffic restrictions to try and reduce the impact of smog and air pollution.
Northern cities including Brescia, Lodi, Monza and Venice topped the pollution chart as Italy's environmental agency warned of a pollution "red alert".
Smog and pollution are choking Italian cities year-round and many towns are exceeding their limits on fine particles and other pollution, according to a new report from Italian environmental authority Legambiente.
Its annual report, published this week, warned that 2018's figures were a “red alert" for Italy.
At least one of two daily pollution limits, on fine particles and ozone emissions, was exceeded in 55 of Italy’s regional capitals.
Unsurprisingly many of Italy’s big cities exceeded the limits. Venice was ranked fourth, closely followed by Milan, Turin and Padua. Rome was 28th and Naples 29th on the list.
Almost all of the worst affected cities are in northern Italy. Frosinone, south of Rome and an emerging centre of industry, falls outside Italy's traditional “industrial triangle” in the north-west, as does Macerata in Campania and the Sicilian town of Enna.
LETS FACE IT.even a mild dose of flu is enough to push that 9% deaths figure way over the edge.
So why are we in Wakefield copping for this tragedy in Italy.'"
You do know that there have been pollution "red alerts" in the UK too ?
I've not travelled in India but, I have been to both China and Italy and from my experience there was absolutely no comparison.
When you look up into the Sky in China, there is no blue Sky, just a grey haze.
At least in Rome, when the sun shines, you can see the sun.
Although people with breathing issues are more susceptible to the covid virus, as are those people with certain types of diabetes and other health issues, it is the virus that caused so many fatalities.
Without covid19, the vast majority of the victims would still be alive.
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| Quote: Mick Amos 9 WTW "Genuine question Willzay. What inequalities do you think there are with the black community? I've asked my black friends and got their answers.'"
Education for a start - I know it’s only Kettlethorpe so not exactly top of the range but when I attended there mid 2000’s there were hardly any BAME students and certainly no BAME teaching staff at all. Likewise college and university pretty much the same feat.
Looking at both cabinets I think I only see 5 BAME ministers in total. I think politics, although there have been some positive changes in this regard, is still a massively disproportionate area.
I’ve had a mate admit recently he’s struggled all his life as someone from the BAME community due to the likes of the Daily Mail constantly attacking them with their sensationalist headlines and people like Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage given the airtime and freedom to spout their hatred. He also feels that any mistakes he may make would end up being used to judge his community.
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