Okay, I should not have said "perhaps". I'm certainly not muck stirring all I was trying to say, obviously unsucessfully that the Club did not say more because they could not say more.

I tried as soon as James Elston made me aware of the situation to difuse it and had hoped to allay peoples fears and end it. Clearly I didn't and in future I think it best if I keep my mouth shut.

Thank you Sandal for taking the time and effort on this thread to try your best to put our fans at ease with your knowledge of the incident, some people dont appreciate it and would rather try pick arguments at every little thing you say.

The sad thing is that with my dealings with the club all this didn't surprise me at all, you can only stumble through so long before you trip and fall. I would say a large part of the explaination has been removed, otherwise it just doesn't stack up. HMRC don't just issue winding up petitions on the first ask, no matter what 'special measures' a company is in. It has to have been going on longer than is being let on and is probably due to either a dispute over the amount (which is pointless as you never win, pay it and hope for a refund in the future) or good old incompetence in the admin office. Think its time we invested in staff who may cost a little more but know what they are doing rather than ones who are under-qualified and cheap but look nice. It's time to get professional off the field or give it up and become a semi-pro club because right now there are too many square pegs in round holes i'm afraid. The people there deserve credit in taking the club so far but they need more expertise. Now it needs to kick on in preparation for Newmarket and take the opportunity it has to get right to the top of the game by the end of the decade. The club can't afford to let this chance pass and hopefully this event will focus the mind.

I think that's totally unfair, he obviously had communications with the Club due to the ST but couldn't say fully what they had told him, probably because they wanted to do it themselves and was only trying to put a few minds at rest, can't see how you accuse him of muck stirring at all, strange comment.

I didn't for one second say that the initial effort of putting minds at rest was a attempt at muck stirring. I said that comment I made reference to could be construed in that way. And the response Sandal Cat has since given underlines that he didn't mean it in that manner, and I appreciate his response. Not for one second was I trying to provoke argument, but it's something as simple as the interpretation of words that now sees us having this debate on page 26.

Perhaps you should put your name forward as you seem to have all the answers

Fair enough, I just thought it was a bit strong, whether you are referring to his general wording or not.

Page 27...bored now. Can't we just lock this & move on?

One thing is clear, 27 pages in a week of differing views on a thread posted by a Cas supporter about an oversight over something and nothing must be some kind of record.
Clearly two camps on this one.
Certainly no need to lock it, it will drop down in its own time and of course bored individuals have the right to not read on.

The real damage isnt now it is when the new application for licences are due when winding up orders, and County court judments are taken into consideration. lets hope no futher bad news is to come am sure mr glover wont wish that to happen.

Well, if that was all true, and its not, we should be thankful that WTW have not had winding up orders or CCJs against them.