No he said 500

Yes we do have freindly games and the key to their success is not to overprice the entrance fee . I would suggets £12 for asuldts and £5 for kids

not realy material to the problem anyway but yet another example of how the clubs cash flow predictions have been unreasonable if true.
very discouraged at present about whosoever ends up running this club is going to find when they get their hands on all the detail, given up trying to work it out myself, because none of it looks good.

Lesson 1.... How not to market your product.

Pricing must be one of the trickiest parts to get right.

For example, if we rely on a hardcore gate of 5,000, going from £18 to £20 produces a guaranteed extra £130,000 a season . But if we kept it at £18, we would only have to attract 555 extra fans each week to end up at the same end of season gate receipts (and that is excluding any extras from shirts and burgers). So does £20 put off 555 people every home game? Possibly.

If the gate price was reduced to £15, you would say goodbye to £325,000 a season. Or to look at it another way, you would need to attract 1,666 extra fans to break even on gate receipts. In reality, you would need 2,000 extra to be better off doing it. Would £15 draw an extra 2,000 in a game? Possibly.

Maybe £17 is the right price. Would lose £195,000 a season if the crowd didn't change, but would need only 882 extra fans to end up at the same figure, plus burger and drinks and shirts, etc.

Not easy running a Rugby Club but its easy to criticise.

Lower prices giving bigger gates meaning more people to buy programmes, shirts, burgers etc. looks good but if the product on the field is poor and gates don't go up you have shot yourself in the foot.

Difficult balancing act. I think you are probably right at £17.00

its obvious that traditionally we have relied on season ticket sales to take us up to the start of the season, therefore the price of those is critical, and wil fluctuate based on what people judge to be value for money, the current squad coupled with performances last year has lessened this figure sustantially i would guess, the loan was the plan to cover this problem, the ground falls through, no loan, we're stuffed. All eggs in one basket simple, it has nothing do do with running a rugby club but has everything to do with running a business, and cash flow management, and yes its easy to criticise, very very easy.

While on the other hand lower prices mean more people and therefore more security and higher game staging costs.

So you probably need a tipping point of, say, 1,000 extra to provide the buffer of the cost of extra security. Surely the aim shouldn't be to screw as much cash from the smallest gate possible.

Health and Safety rules will dictate the number of stewards per head of spectators with someone somewhere making a judgement call on how many are expected.

Things like historical averages between two clubs, the form of both home and visiting teamsm the weather, the time of day, competing attractions etc...

The other consideration is the away support, are they going to be 'put off' from travelling because of an additional £2 - personally I don't think so; its more the facilities, which remain the same whether it's 20p or £20 entrance fee. If it is not going to deter away supporters then by reducing the gate price for a team that brings 3 or 4 thousand is not economic good sense. Also, the different colour 'memberships' does mean that WT supporters can buy tickets at a reduced rate whilst 'away' fans pay the full whack - which seems reasonable to me.

sorry I was talking about the friendly games. We have four in January which is a big ask for folk to fork out for straight after Christmas , especially for families. We want fans to get into the habit NOW of coming to Belle Vue so we need to get as many people as possible through the turnstiles early doors , so £12 adults and £5 kids seems reasonable , as Sandal says then they may have extra available to spend in shop , buy shirts and then wear shirts in town etc so rest of the City want to belong to our growing gang

I'm not sure the key to long-term survival is to rely on the occasional visit of 3 or 4 thousand away fans, because the effect of that is negated by the games against Catalan, Quins, Crusaders, Salford, Huddersfield. The key to survival is to get 3 or 4 thousand extra to every game. Pricing must go some way towards that.

Indeed and we were greedy last year asking forlk for £20 , setting it at £17 or £18 seems so much less that £20. The mere fact it was £20 last season put people off from day one the club then had to play catch up by offereing discounted tickets etc so why not start from a lower base to start with and of course make sure when folk come the players do their bit by at least competing . Its easy to say bring an extra person and then we serve up a 52 nil drubbing