I tried a measured approach to things. I ran an international freight business for 40 years so have some knowledge. When recession hits, as it did three times, you cut your cloth accordingly but look for new business, if you sit and wait, you stagnate and rot. Trinity’s business is rotting. No visible signs of addressing the matter other than a few sticking plasters. If you keep doing the same thing, you get the same results. This equates to Proctor and Atoni. Utter failures and not completing their jobs to the best of their ability, so it looks. Their reward, carry on being a failure. The club is now its own worst enemy by not embracing 2023 and all it offers in social media,etc. Carry on Regardless. It’s becoming a farce. Everyone has an opinion, even from Australia. The big difference is your not watching poop here.

I agree with a lot of what you say, but.....ups' and downs with us is relative isn't it! In 55 years we have finished in the top 4, 3 times!! That by any stretch is poor, through all the chairmen, players & coaches that have come and gone in that timeframe. We have never finished above 5th since '99. No CC final since '79. The golden era of the '60's, now nearly 60 years ago!! This season has been coming for at least 3/4 years, and currently it's pretty abysmal when you look at all the stats. We are on course to be the worst EVER team in Super league the way things are going. I can understand Manuel's post, I completely get it, and like someone else said, the minute season ticket holders start not bothering, the club's actual existence is on a very slippery slope indeed.

Not one of my favourites either tbh.....

My plea is sack Applegarth because there is no chance of filling the new stand in the championship under his style of rugby.

Nah, we're currently breaking SL records every week, why change now.

AGREE .Better to watch a team that plays attractive rugby in the Championship ,than the garbage rugby these coaches think is rugby

He still will be the coach

I think the fans have been very patient with the coach and much of the flack is rightly now falling on sir mick or Lord mick or the messiah or I'm billy big boots bigger than the club Carter but I think if the fans crank it up the coach will go

Also a supporter of over 65 years and feeling now resigned to our fate. I feel that it is time for the people in charge who have obviously achieved a great deal in very trying circumstances to communicate with the fans, admit mistakes have been made and develop a strategy to salvage the rest of the season and also outline the way forward if relegation does come. In conclusion I will add that I will be supporting next season come what may. It is what I do.

I think most supporters agree with some aspects of both sides of the argument. I think what is annoying most supporters is the lack of communication coming from the top. Fitness of the players for me seems to be way short, especially our new overseas signings, who perhaps thought it was going to be far easier than it actually is. Im not sure the sacking of Mash is the answer as it just wastes more money , that could be better spent on playing staff. Most agree its a step too far to revive our season, perhaps it is, but that can be a positive as some have said, watching a team winning some games and building success slowly is better than watching us playing with no zip, staying up and being even worse next season.

I have no beef with anyone on here (except an odd few who seem to think that the world is full of unicorns and money grows on trees) I contributed to this thread because I thought the whole issue lacks balance… and it’s becoming a witch hunt… which I believe is in the best interests of no one.

I actually think the business strategy for the future of the club is a good one… stymied by the pandemic and recession (the causes of which are another vitriolic debate) but… our club is living within its means.. other clubs are not… one only has to look at the demise of some leading RU clubs in the UK to wonder at the fate of some of our clubs. When debt becomes unsustainable or the hobby directors move on??? What then!


That I now live in Australia… should be a reason for me not to have (or not be allowed to express) an opinion on the matter (despite my being a fairly regular face at the club from 75 to 2008) is disappointing. I would suggest that it is you don’t like me having the opinion I do… rather than that it is expressed from overseas that is the issue.

I subscribe to Trinity TV and watch every game(despite knowing the result) and live on Fox Sports when I can… and on my infrequent visits to the UK I have been to every game available… including academy games… my love for the club and the game has not changed since that first game against Keighley in 1975.. it gets in your blood and won’t go away.

Anyway I love this club and will be a fan until I die.

Well said mate and good on you.


Say what you want on here and bascially if some don't like it - .



Edited, i support your sentiment but say what you want but without swearing BG. - Poptart