I think it's futile to be discussing how long we have to wait before we change. Reading between the lines from what our directors have said, it's like it or lump it it, we are going with this and no more. If championship awaits so be it. As they say the die is cast.

We got no choice ,There will be no new coach ,no new players.We are stuck with what we got The board have done a great job off the field, but when it as been choices on the Coaching staff and brining in players to strengthen the squad that Chester took over it as been a disaster but even I was shocked by the choice of this Coach and the way he ignored the spine of the team .

To me there is only 6 that's a problem in our spine, when they are all fit.

Just my opinion, the rot set in whilst Chester was still here. I think he stayed two years longer than he should have done. He was allowed to sign poor players which we are still struck with. Also let's not forget that really nice thing we did by honouring a contract that wasn't signed. The guy did well out of this club but left it in a mess.

I would argue hooker as well, we haven't had a good one since Tyler Randall left. Hood is ok at best, Liam Kay Try's and does have an impact but he isn't a hooker and Bowes has yet to convince me that is SL standard but is still young so has time.

Well I would suggest that if we are still winless after those matches we are dead and buried!

It would leave 18 games to play but we’d almost certainly be 8 points adrift at the bottom meaning we’d probably need a near 50% win ratio to overhaul Cas or Leigh who would have to lose all but 3 of their own remaining 18 matches for it to happen and that’s not very likely.

Minards has said these first 4 games won't define the season. Surely they will because there's no quality to come in and no signings either. This is the worst squad in our SL history. Fact. Even the John Harbin team in the early 00s or Kears last team in 2011. We at least scalped a few and put points on the board. Poching wanted to rebuild and sign players after last year, we'd have gone if Toulouse hadn't run out of steam. He was promptly removed and replaced by Applegarth who obviously jumped at it and why not. A poisoned chalice with no money and no squad quality, but his only chance of a SL head coach gig. Realistically who can we beat in this division? We are so far behind it's ridiculous. Teams will raise the bar when playing us to avoid the ignominy of not only losing to us but letting us even post points. We offer nothing this season other than an easy 2 points and a good opportunity for teams to improve their points difference. Any team with a solid defence and a bit of zip and high tempo will comfortably get 40+ easily. How has the board allowed this to happen? I'm a season ticket holder and a die-hard but can't face much more of this. Funerals are not entertainment.

A lot of negativity on here with people pointing out the bleeding obvious - we haven't invested enough in players. But what was the alternative? Where was the money coming from? We've heard from Minnards. It's been a gamble and it looks like it might not pay off but the alternative was a dead cert - develop the stadium or get the boot from SL. All we can do is get behind the team every game especially at home. Boards come and go, so do players but supporters are forever. Fingers crossed for the Salford match that we can at least show improvement.

I have asked how can we survive if relegated because the revenue from the ground will not cover the loss of Sky money, reduced attendances, less sponsorship and the cost to service the ground loan. It is not much of a legacy to leave a club possibly facing extinction or years of ignominy in the lower divisions.
We all knew how difficult this season would be but how important it was to survive in SL, unfortunately those in charge decided it was not of overriding importance to them. The people in charge are transient but we have to live with what they leave behind. We are just an embarrassment this season which recently culminated in the RFL asking Sky not to cover our home game.

Do you just keep copying and pasting that?

I should do because I am still to receive a reply explaining how we cover the financial discrepancy.

For a start the cost of the squad will reduce. We won't be paying sl wages and contracts will be null and void. How does anyone else else cope outside SL? We would have 'mortgagae' payments but then we would've had rent had we not bought the ground. At least this way we're not at the whim of a hostile landlord. WAFC will be here next year and they will be paying rent, although I don't imagine it would be a large figure given the step they're playing in.