Mc resign now

Having read all the posts on this thread it seems that even some moderate posters think MC is blameworthy to some extent.
We're all entitled to our opinions, of course, but if the posters criticising MC are right have they got an alternative in mind?
All I can see is a bloke keeping the club in a stable financial position with the least money in SL.
Trevor Woodward who was the Chairman last time we got to Wembley used to say, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
Trevor splashed money out signing players right left and centre. Ok, we got to Wembley but lost and the team dismantled faster that it was assembled and we've been in the financial mire ever since.
We need a massive cash injection otherwise, it's more of the same.

Do we necessarily need a sugar daddy though, like Ken Davy.

I don't know, but I would guess we were well below the cap in 2017, and we went pretty close to a top 4 finish. The year before that in a challenge Cup semi final, albeit, second best.

This with crowds of about 5k, so still under the magic 6k figure

If anyone thinks anything is going to change if we stay up this year, then they are in for a shock. By churning out dogger performances again and again and yet again relying on other teams performances to keep us up by the skin of our teeth, who are we going to attract to join us compared to any other team in SL. Which player in their right mind is going to sign for us when there’s a decent chance we won’t be in SL, and then they are screwed finding another team last minute.
I’ve watched the tries and the first one was like watching an primary school kids play on a field, swinging him around by his top. Absolutely embarrassing.

There is certainly a poor product on the pitch and has been for a few years. This is 2019 all over again.

The mistake made was giving Willie the job. If he was head coach material, he would have become it before now. Some people are just meant to be assistants, and Willie is one.

We've been here too many times: head coach has a slump. We sack him and appoint the assistant, who enjoys a revival. Assistant gets the job full-time, who has a worst slump and doesn't last a year.

I said it at the time and hoped I was wrong. Turns out I'm not. And Willie isn't helped by having a pack that has looked poor for years.

But apart from appointing a bad head coach, the club is well run, stable, a new ground on the way.

Course we do. Saying we don’t need money and competing 6/800k behind most teams is like an RS3 trying to compete in F1, it’s simply not a level playing field. Sadly you pay for what you get, the tactics of playing ‘Money Ball’ is over, we never built on these decent seasons and just look at where we are now.

I agree, but we can never maintain it. We had a good run when Solomona was here, but once again we couldn't hold on to such players.
We need a good combination. Money alone won't do it, but it certainly helps. A top class, proven coach helps,good management is essential also.
I started to watch Trinity in 1960 and money was available. We had a top class coach and a classic chairman in Stuart Hadfield - result - a decade of success until the money ran out!

There was more than enough quality on show today to come away with the points , it’s lays squarely at the players feet , not Carters or poaching’s . Where were the elder statesmen of our team leading by example today , who was the captain today rallying his troops . The Difference today was simply , one team wanted it more , it’s not rocket science, ,all they had to do was get stuck in and show some pride, effort and passion in their game and job was done .

Not sure what the number of season tickets sold would have would have been, but 2500 adult memberships from a crowd of 5000 would sound about right, would bring in close to £700k, added into that, the money we get from sky would be close to the cap limit anyway. That doesn't include revenue from sponsorship and merchandise.

Hopefully, when the new stand is up, they'll have meeting and function rooms that can be hired out, that could potentially make money 365 days a year.

Yes, they need a backer, but not necessarily one thst pumps in six figure sums every year

I’m pretty sure we’ve lost £500k this year with the new sky deal so we are running 6/700k under the 2.1 million cap. In order to attract more fans we need a decent side, I don’t think it’s a case of ‘if they build it they will come‘. I feel we do need a financial backer to help us attract better players to not constantly be bottom floating, then when it comes to signing new players they won’t be worried whether we will be in SL next year.

Trouble is these backers don't exist.

100%. Hence why we are cutting our cloth accordingly and skirting around the bottom of SL year after year. It’s very frustrating being a Wakey fan to say the least

Are we the only club to lose out with the current sky deal though?

Obviously the money is important, that goes without saying. But it isn't just that, it is also about new ideas and/or a new way doing things. Everybody has a shelf life at a company but in sport that life span is shorter than most, things tend to go stale quicker. Players, coaches & yes owners all require changing eventually. Maybe the time has come? Something has to change though as we are stuck in a rut and have been regressing every year for five years.

A lot of SL teams have owners who put their own money into their respective clubs to subsidise these loses in order to reach full cap and more with marquee players etc. Obviously MC can’t do this, he is running it as a business. I don’t think many SL teams will run at a profit, maybe St’s or Leeds. The rest run at a loss, though are financially backed in order to carry on.

I totally agree with all this. You only have to look at football and Man Utd to see you can have all the money yet can still be in a real mess. It runs deeper than money, but I still think money plays a big part in building a stable future. Unfortunately we’ve not had the privilege of being able to experience said financial clout.

Of course they exist,it just needs the people with the right skills etc to go out and find/get them

Money does help but doesn't guarantee succes. You used Man United as an example, but I recall Ron Atkinson throwing the cash in the 80's, but they never won the league under him, and in our great sport, Leeds threw the chequebook at everything in the 80's and 90's, and how many times did they win the league in this time

I know everyone is upset about the game today and when this happens, people just fire at anything they can see.

But for me, the players we have are good enough and not performing. That is either coaching tactics or individual players.
We've seen them play better.

100% agree, it doesn’t guarantee you success, though I’d like our club to have the opportunity to actually have some and give it a good go!

Are they good enough though? The occasional good performance yes but the VAST majority of the time they have been proven on the whole not to be, thats why we keep being around the bottom just about scraping enough wins every year.

For me we have 6 'crown jewels', players who most other teams would like -
TJ
Fifita
Lino
Miller
Tanginoa
Lyne

We then have a handful of players who are either 'good for us' players generally in their mid twenties and have been here a while or promising youngsters. Guys like Jowitt & Batchelor spring to mind for the first category, Murphy, Hall & Aydin for the second. There's probably a couple of others but it's not a huge list.

Sadly for me most of the rest are either rapidly sliding down the wrong side of the age mountain or not really up to superleague standard. My worry is our luck will run out eventually, and if Toulouse get a roll on with their upcoming run of home games we are in deep trouble. And years of mostly poor recruitment and poor use of budget will be to blame in my opinion.

So even if you are right, you've named our whole back line, who we've seen score some fantastic tries, yet they now can't score when we have repeat sets on the line.

Have they become bad signings or are they just not performing?

The danger is that Toulouse are improving

They have come up from the Championship and have been acclimatising to the faster pace and higher intensity of Super League, they’ve got better week on week.
At the same time they have been on the lookout for players who will improve them, Corey Norman will make a huge difference to them when he starts playing, Ashall-Bott is an improvement on their previous Full Back and Daniel Alvaro is another very good addition.
They will continue to acclimatise and they’ll continue to recruit and that spells danger for us.

They are performing exactly to the same standard and style we have for the majority of games over the last four seasons. We have changed some of the players and coaches but the latter in the majority of cases have been from within.

They can’t do it all themselves. The problem is only 3 of those players mentioned have been signed in the last 3 years. Recent recruitment has been both poor and incredibly wasteful. Players have arrived that haven’t been any better than those who they replace and have taken up too much of the budget, signings have been made for signings sake and contracts have been extended for longer than they should have. That is not the players fault, it’s that of both the coaching staff and club management.