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| Quote vastman="vastman"Agreed but also should it all go smoothly, a nod of appreciation to the new regime at the council.
This simply would not have happened under Box, whose treachery towards the sporting public of Wakefield was a scandal.
Just goes to show what a supportive council can help to achieve. Had this lot been in charge ten years ago we’d have been playing out of NM for years now. Ditto Cas and to a lesser degree Fev would be in a far stronger position.
All three would be in SL and I reckon we’d be up there chasing honours.
It’s very unusual in life to say this but only one man is to blame and that’s Box. Sure Walker and YC did their worst but it was the job of Box to make sure they didn’t and in this his key roll he failed miserably.
I do hope in time he’s caught out and expunged from the record, horrible man imho.'" would it be going to far to have him hung drawn and quartered
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Agreed but also should it all go smoothly, a nod of appreciation to the new regime at the council.
This simply would not have happened under Box, whose treachery towards the sporting public of Wakefield was a scandal.
Just goes to show what a supportive council can help to achieve. Had this lot been in charge ten years ago we’d have been playing out of NM for years now. Ditto Cas and to a lesser degree Fev would be in a far stronger position.
All three would be in SL and I reckon we’d be up there chasing honours.
It’s very unusual in life to say this but only one man is to blame and that’s Box.[u Sure Walker and YC did their worst but it was the job of Box to make sure they didn’t and in this his key roll he failed miserably.[/u
I do hope in time he’s caught out and expunged from the record, horrible man imho.'"
Didn't that Yvette Cooper play a part as well?
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| Quote chissitt="chissitt"Didn't that Yvette Cooper play a part as well?'"
She did and a few others but none were as determined for us to fail than Box.
To this day I don’t totally get his motivation or not in a way I can post without it being libellous 
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| Quote vastman="vastman"She did and a few others but none were as determined for us to fail than Box.
To this day I don’t totally get his motivation or not in a way I can post without it being libellous
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Don't be too hasty with the praise of the new leadership, vasty. Remember that the current incumbent. Ms Jeffrey, was a protege and close ally of Peter Box and represents a Castleford ward, I believe, as did her predecessor. Fingers crossed that this time it WILL happen.
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| Quote Redscat="Redscat"Don't be too hasty with the praise of the new leadership, vasty. Remember that the current incumbent. Ms Jeffrey, was a protege and close ally of Peter Box and represents a Castleford ward, I believe, as did her predecessor. Fingers crossed that this time it WILL happen.'"
I don't want to sound ungrateful, particularly as I'm not a Wakefield council tax payer, but I can't shake this feeling that the £2 million offered per club wouldn't have happened if Cas were in their new ground. Weird that Cas get access to some upgrade cash just when Wakey are getting our stadium on the way to being sorted.
Or am I being too cynical?
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"I don't want to sound ungrateful, particularly as I'm not a Wakefield council tax payer, but I can't shake this feeling that the £2 million offered per club wouldn't have happened if Cas were in their new ground. Weird that Cas get access to some upgrade cash just when Wakey are getting our stadium on the way to being sorted.
Or am I being too cynical?'"
no your not you can also add to it as a sweetener too for the cock up they made with the Newmarket fiasco
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"I don't want to sound ungrateful, particularly as I'm not a Wakefield council tax payer, but I can't shake this feeling that the £2 million offered per club wouldn't have happened if Cas were in their new ground. Weird that Cas get access to some upgrade cash just when Wakey are getting our stadium on the way to being sorted.
Or am I being too cynical?'"
I think it's a little bit the other way round.
It was common knowledge that WMDC had committed £2m to Trinity's development (I seem to remember it as drawing a loan against a WMDC asset e.g. a land parcel, or similar).
When Fev and Cas, perhaps rightly, made a bit of a fuss (and they did, privately, to WMDC), the council have 2 options:
1 withdraw the offer
2 find a a way to make the same offer to all 3 clubs.
It's absolutely right that WMDC (and the local taxpayer), should see what it is they are getting fir their community for the £2m.
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| Quote Redscat="Redscat"Don't be too hasty with the praise of the new leadership, vasty. Remember that the current incumbent. Ms Jeffrey, was a protege and close ally of Peter Box and represents a Castleford ward, I believe, as did her predecessor. Fingers crossed that this time it WILL happen.'"
I’ve met both, often.
Ones a politician and the other was whatever Box was.
However, I always felt Jeffrey wanted to do something even as far back as 2008 and tbf it seems she has. I'd go as far as to say it was her vanity project like the Hepworth was to Box. She was the driving force behind Thornes until Box pulled the rug, It's not my job to defend her but I can only go on what I saw.
Being a protege means nothing in politics as you know, Major was a Thatcher protege but was probably the nearest this country has ever got to a centrist PM. Look at Russia, the leader after Stalin immediately denounced him and Niki was his right haunt man.
You just can’t judge, it’s in the doing for me.
The verdict will come this time next year when the bulk of the work should be done.
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"I don't want to sound ungrateful, particularly as I'm not a Wakefield council tax payer, but I can't shake this feeling that the £2 million offered per club wouldn't have happened if Cas were in their new ground. Weird that Cas get access to some upgrade cash just when Wakey are getting our stadium on the way to being sorted.
Or am I being too cynical?'"
If all comes to pass it is as dboy says very much the other way around.
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| Quote dboy="dboy"I think it's a little bit the other way round.
It was common knowledge that WMDC had committed £2m to Trinity's development (I seem to remember it as drawing a loan against a WMDC asset e.g. a land parcel, or similar).
When Fev and Cas, perhaps rightly, made a bit of a fuss (and they did, privately, to WMDC), the council have 2 options:
1 withdraw the offer
2 find a a way to make the same offer to all 3 clubs.
It's absolutely right that WMDC (and the local taxpayer), should see what it is they are getting fir their community for the £2m.'"
It is and it isn’t. WMDC had far more of an obligation to Trinity than the others because they screwed up NM.
I’d suggest they couldn’t remove the 2 million from us for fear of legal action. Politically they had to support the others, nothing more imho.
Cas and Fev fans won’t like it but we were owed far more than them and still are imho.
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| Just returned from Friday Lunch, Connor interview with big Dave and Lee Gaskell, followed after lunch by JM speaking mainly about the redevelopment. Still on for December 16 planning application, should be online for anyone wanting to watch. A decision on both applications expected same day, and if passed with a recommendation to proceed, there is a three week period when the SoS can intervene if necessary, that takes us to mid December. There will be further contracts discussions between Wakefield council, Trinity and the developers and no work on the plot 8 site until all contracts agreed and signed. The Monies raised by enabling fund and council grant, will be paid into a Council account JM estimates this will take a number of weeks therefore the East stand will still be in use February and March match days,, but we should expect bulldozers on-site by April, A 12 month build expected, so hopefully, the new stand ready by mid 2023. The west terrace is still being considered for redevelopment, but not in the immediate future. Obviously there’s no guarantees, but JM is confident this will now happen.
I hope I’ve got this all correct, but anyone who was at today’s lunch, please feel free to correct me.
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| Quote Dunkirk Spirit="Dunkirk Spirit"Just returned from Friday Lunch, Connor interview with big Dave and Lee Gaskell, followed after lunch by JM speaking mainly about the redevelopment. Still on for December 16 planning application, should be online for anyone wanting to watch. A decision on both applications expected same day, and if passed with a recommendation to proceed, there is a three week period when the SoS can intervene if necessary, that takes us to mid December. There will be further contracts discussions between Wakefield council, Trinity and the developers and no work on the plot 8 site until all contracts agreed and signed. The Monies raised by enabling fund and council grant, will be paid into a Council account JM estimates this will take a number of weeks therefore the East stand will still be in use February and March match days,, but we should expect bulldozers on-site by April, A 12 month build expected, so hopefully, the new stand ready by mid 2023. The west terrace is still being considered for redevelopment, but not in the immediate future. Obviously there’s no guarantees, but JM is confident this will now happen.
I hope I’ve got this all correct, but anyone who was at today’s lunch, please feel free to correct me.'"
Just one correction it will take us to mid January, not December. Otherwise a good review of JM comments.
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