Gale playing could be a problem for me.he has a kicking game.this is why kershaw cant play in my opinion his mistakes and inability to deal with kicks as led to 6 tries in ladt 3 games im sure gale will be peppering him

Bet365 are giving us 8.5 start. That's quite big really.
They don't rate our chances.

I think far too many people are placing too much emphasis on the hooker position in respect of why we are losing etc.
Against Wigan a non hooker plays and it's 6-6 at HT. Recognised hooker plays second half and it ends up we lose 34-6.
Against St Helens non hooker plays 23minutes and it's 0-0. Recognised hooker comes on and plays until 73 mins and it's 34-0 against us. Non hooker comes on and we score and it ends up 34-6.
V Hull recognised hooker starts and plays 32 minutes and we are losing 8-0. Non recognised hooker comes on and it ends up 20-14.

Crowther isn't a convential hooker or someone who you would want as hooker if you can help it. However he's made a decent fist of it. Facts are when he's been on the field we've competed and been in the game! When he's gone off we've struggled.

I think there's wider problems with our star men who haven't given us the Xfactor. We've some phenomenal players who haven't played well enough, consistently enough. I'm sure they know that deep down.

In a team there's everyone who plays their part and are equally important. The grafter who tackles everything, the finisher, the line breaker, the person who can finish when they're put through a gap, the ball handler, the kicker, the person who links in etc..

Despite some being injured if our match winners start performing we should see a few wins in the next few weeks

It's not Crowther's fault at all. When he's been on he's gone a long way to keeping those scores tight.
But having him at half back slows the distribution, so eventually they start scoring and we can't go with them.

To be honest, it's easy to coach from my keyboard but I think I'd have put Westy in the line earlier and just used 6 or 7 at half back and let Crowther just concentrate on tackling.

1. Jowitt
2. Kershaw
3. Lyne
4. Arundel
5. Kay
6. Westerman
7. Lino
8. Green
9. Eaves
10. Arona
11. Ashurst
12. Pitts
13. Crowther

14. Wood
15. Fifita
16. Battye
17. Tanginoa

Surely you are not putting the opposition scoring at will when Jordans off to slow distribution? I'll add our distribution hasn't been great by anyone. We'd only played 23 minutes v Saints and it was 0-0. A recognised hooker plays from there on in and we get smashed. Two tries through poor defence by our hooker in same game. Recognised hooker starts v Hull and we are losing 8-0. When we've had recognised hookers on we've created nothing and leaked points. That's probably why poor Jordan gets put there. Fans don't look that close and I'll bet three-quarters wouldn't know about the stats and point the finger at Jordan rather than the actual hookers. I like most don't want Jordan at hooker. But our hookers have been injured and not fired upon their return. Hopefully they'll start firing and get back to 80minute footy so he doesn't have to go there.

No chance this game

focus on next weel

l agree are we picking our matches ?

Not at all. Just like I'm not saying that the low score was purely down to Crowther being on.

If you have slow ball, your kick isn't as deep, your forwards don't make as much ground and you are easy to defend against.
So if you don't offer anything in attack, you will eventually run out of steam in defense.

I would put Tupou on the bench if he is not injured because he is big enough to cover SR or be in the back line. The problem we have had that any injuries to the centres or wings usually results in us moving a SR to cover in the centres.

Got to the point with all the injuries and comings and going I’ve lost track to be honest , I don’t really care who plays where as long as they play with passion and pride and put the effort in for the full 80 ,they’ll do for me .
Oh and come away with a win will be a bonus

Me too. In fact does anyone know who the preferred 1-17 are because I haven't got a clue.