Sorry Klav but if you aren’t very good at winning games you don’t deserve more support it’s that simple imo. All the hype in the world won’t get you a single fan if the product is poor.

Don’t get me wrong I saw the screen ad your on about and I’d like to see us do a bit more like that. However it’s very much a side issue.

The biggest advert the club could have is an open top bus parading the CCup winning team through the city. That’s what gets people interested.

I honestly believe we as fans are so conditioned to failure that we have forgotten what it’s all about. We’ve just seen it on another thread and it’s a bit of a cancer at the club. I certainly think if rubs of on the players some of whom know deep down they can get away with giving up in big games because we have.

It’s always the Coach or the BOD to blame, well it isn’t it’s all of us including fans and players.

All of us need to up our game and fans need to stop feeling sorry for themselves and just back the chuffin club! We are the best salesmen but all most Trinity fans do is moan and then complain that nobody cares about Trinity any more (not you).

Try being like Cas fans for a change, they start most seasons believing they have already won it, might work, optimism can be just as infectious as pessimism.

Well stop watching then if it causes you such pain, it’s not helping any of us is it. Ever thought of leaving the past in the past where it belongs and looking to the future?

You can learn from the past for certain but you and a fair few others wallow in it, as I say you enjoy it but then have the audacity to cover it up as concern.

I find it so wrong and disrespectful to all those past and present who’ve worked so hard to keep us on SL and they still are.

Without giving anything away there is an embryonic project in the making that could help transform the club. It’s hugely early days but my biggest and only fear is that it won’t get the support it needs from the fans. If we were Cas I or even Batley I wouldn’t be the least bit concerned.

Why not be positive, just for once, for heavens sake a ball has not even been passed in anger yet!

Vastman I am a life long fan with opinions and a general interest in the club, just because my views differ from you doesn't mean I should keep my opinions to myself or even stay away from watching.
Supporters would have to have a saveer case of rose tinted to not see the club shortfalls.
You always manage to turn your responses in to a negative attack on the original poster..
We all have the club at heart and would love to be part of successful club going forward, hell fire we have been part of a club that seems to bobble along the bottom for long enough. Yes we have some encouraging signs but I honestly believe the club seem lost when it comes to marketing and engaging with the local public.

The Club have any number of volunteers doing all sorts of jobs (i know cos i am one). Why not contact MC with your ideas and how you see them working and the cost, and how you could help implement and I'm sure they would be willing to listen?

Perhaps we could sign her for a few games.

He probably won't.

I`m not sure I agree with that, all for filtering ideas into the club but why should it be down to a fan to come up with plans on how to implement and work out costings for the club? They are a professional organisation with professional staff dedicated to marketing the club, Communications etc like any other organisation.

Why not address my response to your post instead on speculating what I may or may not do.
Like I have said before you are the common denominator on disagreement and falling out on the site and seem to take a strange satisfaction in trying to put people.down
You are becoming a bore and your contributions dull
And totally predictable.. Maybe you should take a close look at your contributions and either toke a rest or try to get back to your interesting and eventful threads.
OR WAS THAT FISHERMANFRIEND.

Because clearly some feel that its not working, but equally I still suspect that we are as cash strapped as we were in 2013 just before we nearly went bust, so whilst I agree that it would be lovely to see the Club emblazoned all over the City, I would also think to myself, that perhaps just maybe, finances dictate they cant. The mantra for the last 8 years has always been 'spend what we earn'. There has never been any suggestion of 'speculate to accumulate' . If you want that, I suggest you start trying to find different owners, because the current incumbents either don't have the money, or don't have the will to risk their money to do that, and never will, in my opinion!

I'm the bore, priceless.

So nothing you say provokes a negative response from anybody but me? Think you should read the replies you get!

The difference between me and you is simple. I post controversial stuff and I expect some negative responses, that's how freedom of expression works and I'll stand my corner.

You post endless negative sniping comments about the players and the club and you cry foul when someone pulls you upon it. Is that how it works in your world? You express any opinion you want and nobody can answer back?

Play the game, this is a forum, you post mundane stuff you get mundane answers, you post strong opinions you get strong replies. It's not personal from me, I don't know you from Adam but you seem to be intent on making it so. You post something I agree with and I'll respond positively.

I thought we had and she played for us last season......

Is she Wayne's mum?

Social media is a great tool, but for me its preaching to the converted unless you spend some effort and produce something that could go viral. The issue with that is is it's very easy to press like then forget about it after a day or so, with no real benefit to the club. Everyone in Wakefield, or at least every sports fan, should know who Tom Johnstone is, but I bet outside of Trinity fans not many do.

The point of the Wakefield AFC advert I saw was that it is effective in reaching out to people who wouldn't ordinarily look for it. It also must have been fairly affordable.

I know the mantra is only spend whatever we accumulate, but we're not going to accumulate more with that policy in order to push the club onto that next step. Unless we hit a real purple patch and have a great run with few injuries we are 5th place club at best, and that's not a slight on the club, there are just better teams with greater resources above us. Relying on success to boost crowds is a little foolhardy. There can only be at most two successful teams each season.

I wonder how effective it is, it looks good I grant you but would it draw in a single extra paying fan?

Remember Wakefield AFC is effectively an amateur club, whatever cash they raise doesn't go on wages as far as I can tell. Thet are looking for people to participate we are looking for paying punters, two very different agendas.

I'm not saying your wrong but I rarely see any RL club doing that kind of thing these days let alone us.

Tell you what though, if you can find out how much it cost I'll contribute £50 straight away and I'm not joking. This sounds like a project fans can contribute to, ie the likes of Luppy and Scarlet for a start. Again I'm not having a dig, I just don't see why we can't do it, I'm sure the club has the people to knock up an ad?