Unfortunately, we'll only find out at the end of everything. Thinking pragmatically, if Box and Co don't intend to deliver a stadium, one will not be delivered, regardless of who is on the Trust. If, however, Box wants to deal with different people because he wants to avoid blame for the delay, by saying that it was the attitude of the original Trust that was the stumbling block, but a stadium follows, I can live with that. Let him have his day on the winners podium.

The issue is whether any new Trust delivers a stadium on terms acceptable to the club. If not, then it stinks. If so, fine. It's the desired outcome that matters, not how it is achieved.

The fact that Eric was on the Trust until last week, and is a fan of the club, just makes me think it might be okay, and that this is Box's way of saving face when the new Trust achieves the deal.

If the end result is nothing, it was always going to be nothing, and we've lost nothing, but I cant see Eric wanting to be part of that.

How utterly depressing are the shenanigans of Wakefield Council. Box, Jeffries et all have zero interest in a future for Wakefield Trinity and it makes my blood boil just thinking of what they are scheming up now to yet again shaft our club.

I understand what you are saying, however, IF you are correct in your assumptions, that would point to MC & CB being the "stumbling block" and quite frankly, after all that they have done for Trinity since they took over, I just dont buy it.
Of course they have a substantial stake in Trinity and they would be expected to, first and foremost, protect that stake.
However, this just smells like Box STILL not wanting to enforce any stadium build, despite what has gone on at Newmarket and with Newcold and that he wishes to deal with his "cronies".

The issue that irks most Trinity fans is that any new stadium/re-build / community facilities, looks further away now than they have ever done and as a Trinity fan for 30 years and having been through thin and thinner and protested outside County Hall and the Town Hall, it breaks my heart that the political will in the district, to get this done, still remains at ZERO.

Massive credit is due to MC & CB for the position the club both on and off the field, which apart from the stadium, is the best it's been for all of the 30 years that I've been following Trinity and this is utterly in spite of those who have put and are still putting self interest above Wakefield Trinity.

Box must laugh when he considers the cul de sac that Trinity are being driven down and it's an utter disgrace that this can happen in a democracy, both at local and National level.

Such a shame as I always knew Ted was dodgy even though I quite liked him but Eric I always found a gent and I'm surprised. However old men who have had power find it hard to let go and Eric has clearly sucummed. However I have no doubt Ted has been involved and along with Walker is lurking in the shadows which as already noted would be a total disaster.

One thing I would like to implore MC to do is not give way to these two parasites, you've done some tremendous stuff don't let them rob you of the rewards and the credit,

I'd honestly rather the club go bust than have that Walker and Ted back. Don't normally indulge in back slapping but they don't deserve to get their grubby hands on what you two have created

Met Eric a few times. Seemed a genuine chap and a Trinity fan. Hopefully he still is.

No it's not sopt on imo though I get feelings are high.

I'm annoyed and dissapointed with his decision however in Erics case he did his best as the financial director under trying circunstances for a lot of years. He may be the villian now but he was'nt then.

You do recall what MC's position was at the club when Glover was here? Do you want to tar him with that brush as well?

I've really no idea what Erics motives are, but imho they are wrong - knowing him a little I suspect he feels they are right, that's the shame as in his case I suspecthe is a decent man making a poor choice - no need for a character assasination plaese.

Eric Timmins has been on the trust just about from its very start so he is probably the longest serving member. The trust is like any organisation in that people come and go. All the members of the trust as it recently stood were all deemed capable honest and trustworthy and that includes Eric.

What I don't like is that since Walker was found out and kicked off, suddenly the people left on the trust were deemed to be unacceptable to Box and his gang. Nothing has changed, they are just the same people.

Eric has obviously decided to leave and accept the invitation to join the 'other' trust. Perhaps he thinks by doing so he could have more influence in ensuring we get a stadium.

However I have no problem with Eric leaving its his decision. My problem is the concept of setting up a new trust. The present trust is registered at companies house and open to full scrutiny. This new lot have obviously been under the assembly process for some time, well over 6 months to my knowledge, but still not registered. They prefer to skulk in the shadows and remain anonymous that alone rings massive alarm bells!!! They very day Walker was kicked off the present trust he stated he would go away and form his own trust. I therefore can't think of any other reason why this new trust is being kept so secret.

Further to that I think its an open secret that the council say they find CB and MC difficult to deal with. Well there is only one answer to that, If the council made Yorkcourt deliver what they promised I am sure that the council would find CB and MC the most affable and accommodating persons possible.

Instead the council are quite happy to allow Yorkcourt to get planning permission to build housing on what should be the stadium site and completely ignore any financial obligations they should have for the rest of the development. They are also planning to give 88G lucrative development deals in Thornes Park.
In return the club are being offered some form of stadium development at Belle Vue on worse terms that were originally outlined at Newmarket. The talk of 3G pitchs and other facilities seems to be long forgotten.

Yet the club owners and the remaining trust members are deemed as awkward , unreasonable and untrustworthy for not allowing the council and Yorkcourt to blatantly short change them and the wider Wakefield public.

Now that is spot on

I completely agree with your post but where does that information highlighted come from PB? Yorkcourts most recent planning application still has the stadium etc on, for what it's worth. Is it that's what you think they'll do with the land if Belle Vue gets redeveloped or that's what's gonna happen either way?

Jeez, I can't keep up with all the comings & goings, let alone more smoke & mirrors!

What's happened to TRB has he gone rogue?

He's probably sat in a corner rocking! Can't comprehend how the Trust keep their cool with all the twists and turns in this saga.

You are correct its not quoted on the application. However I can assure you that within weeks of the secretary of state granting consent at Newmarket, Walker came up with the plan to ditch the scheme and re develop Belle Vue instead. He made the trust aware of this plan long before MC and CB were ever involved, its always been an open secret.

Once he sold the Belle Vue idea to the supporters you are left with 35 acres of cheap greenbelt land at Newmarket that can be turned into very lucrative housing development.

Now this bit is speculation , If the stadium is never built at Newmarket then its almost a certain bet that the stadium site can be redeveloped in a far more profitable way. So in order to guarantee that happening what better way than to keep Newcold out of the trigger area.

Anyhow I can assure you the plan is to give Yorkcourt planning on the stadium site for some money to 'develop' Belle Vue.

CB and MC can see right through their intentions and are not prepared to be short changed. The remaining trust members also see that. However they are now labelled as awkward, untrustworthy, etc etc for not falling for this.

Some people may say, so what at least we are getting a stadium, it really doesn't matter if Yorkcourt get some more benefit from the site we are getting what we want. Well we are not ! Initially we were getting 12,000 seats with all the surrounding facilities and pitches. Now Yorkcourt are getting a larger financial lift from that site and in return we are supposedly getting a bodge job 10,000 seater at best, and quite frankly I don't think we will even get that.

Last but not least, its a real pity that the wider Wakefield public seem to be nose blind because the stench from the town hall in all this is overwhelming.