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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "You have to remember the council and MP must think of everyone in their areas not just the 5 or 6 of you on here. If you don’t like it you are all free to stand for election and if you are correct in your belief that the club is the centre of the community you should have no problem.
We know of course that none of you would win because the ratepayers of Wakefield have more important concerns sadly.
I note that the mosque that was guaranteed was going to be built is still not on the cards. I hope whoever stated on here that they had it from a person at the council meeting where it was agreed, I hope they weren’t telling an untruth because that is the reserve of the elected officials apparently.
I have read many wild accusations but the council have as I said before for all ratepayers not just the supporters of Wakefield.
I will leave it at that if it keeps you happy to write pages and pages of posts just going over and over the same ground.'"
Well I would rather read the views of those who can see the blatant disregard the council and MP have for the community stadium issue than your usual anti club rhetoric.
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| I see that "The Thought Police" are still alive and kicking. The more people that expose the workings of WMDC the better whether it is on this Forum or not. Do you find it acceptable balls-in- hand that Peter Box can publicly state that Newmarket was nothing to do with him or the Council and then start dictating the odds regarding the whole debacle????
The more freedom of speech the better. It also keeps this forum busy during the closed season.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "You have to remember the council and MP must think of everyone in their areas not just the 5 or 6 of you on here. If you don’t like it you are all free to stand for election and if you are correct in your belief that the club is the centre of the community you should have no problem.
We know of course that none of you would win because the ratepayers of Wakefield have more important concerns sadly.
I note that the mosque that was guaranteed was going to be built is still not on the cards. I hope whoever stated on here that they had it from a person at the council meeting where it was agreed, I hope they weren’t telling an untruth because that is the reserve of the elected officials apparently.
I have read many wild accusations but the council have as I said before for all ratepayers not just the supporters of Wakefield.
I will leave it at that if it keeps you happy to write pages and pages of posts just going over and over the same ground.'"
I know you’ve got a grievance against MC, but you bang on about the posters on here going over the same ground talk about kettle calling the pan
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| I don’t even mention MC, I would say he has more of a problem with me. I read the council lied about this etc. but who was it that suffers from mosqueaphobia. This is a new irrational fear of mosques being built with the support of the council.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "You have to remember the council and MP must think of everyone in their areas not just the 5 or 6 of you on here. If you don’t like it you are all free to stand for election and if you are correct in your belief that the club is the centre of the community you should have no problem.
We know of course that none of you would win because the ratepayers of Wakefield have more important concerns sadly.
I note that the mosque that was guaranteed was going to be built is still not on the cards. I hope whoever stated on here that they had it from a person at the council meeting where it was agreed, I hope they weren’t telling an untruth because that is the reserve of the elected officials apparently.
I have read many wild accusations but the council have as I said before for all ratepayers not just the supporters of Wakefield.
I will leave it at that if it keeps you happy to write pages and pages of posts just going over and over the same ground.'"
Cool story that but what has it got to do with WMDC handing green belt land over to a developer. under the promise of a Community Stadium and other sporting facilities being built (2 full size 3G pitches and seperate changing rooms), along with providing around 2000 new jobs for said Community & ratepayers under a S106 agreement. All this was achieved with the help of 15000 signatures in supprt by the people of Wakefeild/ratepayers.
What have we go to show for all those promises 7 years on, a huge box that counts towards nothing for the ratepayers you go on about so much and about 125 jobs. Not excatly what WMDC and Yorkcourt said is it, in fact it's nowhere close. You don't think said ratepayers of Wakefield should be concerned about that hey? Ateotd this development was meant to be built with little cost to WMDC. You'd think they'd do everything in their power to make it happen wouldn't you, but all we've heard until recently is that it's nothing to do with them, strange that.
You seem to think all this is about ' the 5 or 6 of you on here', well that speaks volumes about where you're coming from tbh.
You also constantly paint this as just being about Trinity, when it's not at all. It's about the Community at large as well as Trinity being let down by both parties involved, whether that's the sports facilties or the jobs.
By the way if you think MC has a 'problem' with you, it can't be anything to do (even though you claim to be a Trinity fan) with your constant anti Trinity slant since you joined the site. I don't see MC having a 'problem' with anyone else, do you.
You say you'll leave it at that but I bet when any other news about the stadium, Newmarket or WMDC pops up, you'll be soon on here to put your views across.
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| Scarlett defended Agar to the hilt when he was running this club into the ground, why am I not suprised he's taking the Council's side here.
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| Quote: Shifty Cat ".........say you'll leave it at that but I bet when any other news about the stadium, Newmarket or WMDC pops up, you'll be soon on here to put your views across.'"
Which he's perfectly entitled to do. I don't get the big trauma about scarlett's posts.
He doesn't have to be a troll or a Car fan or an MC hater to have a different opinion.
Prove him wrong by all means but when I see snippy comments back instead of posts with substance (not you Shifty) it makes it look like he has a better thought out point.
So if you reason for posting is to make people aware etc, that isn't the way.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I don’t even mention MC, I would say he has more of a problem with me. I read the council lied about this etc. but who was it that suffers from mosqueaphobia. This is a new irrational fear of mosques being built with the support of the council.'"
I'm still waiting for your solutions to our ground problem.
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| Quote: PopTart "Which he's perfectly entitled to do. I don't get the big trauma about scarlett's posts.
He doesn't have to be a troll or a Car fan or an MC hater to have a different opinion.
Prove him wrong by all means but when I see snippy comments back instead of posts with substance (not you Shifty) it makes it look like he has a better thought out point.
So if you reason for posting is to make people aware etc, that isn't the way.'"
He is perfectly entitled yes but his blatant vendetta against MC does get rather tedious.
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| Quote: PopTart "Which he's perfectly entitled to do. I don't get the big trauma about scarlett's posts.
He doesn't have to be a troll or a Car fan or an MC hater to have a different opinion.
Prove him wrong by all means but when I see snippy comments back instead of posts with substance (not you Shifty) it makes it look like he has a better thought out point.
So if you reason for posting is to make people aware etc, that isn't the way.'"
Sorry PT so are the Cas fans but hasn't stopped you issuing warnings to them about why their comments might not be welcome Plus there is no substance to Scarlett's posts other than his obvious issue with the club mc or both
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Sorry PT so are the Cas fans but hasn't stopped you issuing warnings to them about why their comments might not be welcome Plus there is no substance to Scarlett's posts other than his obvious issue with the club mc or both'"
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Sorry PT so are the Cas fans but hasn't stopped you issuing warnings to them about why their comments might not be welcome Plus there is no substance to Scarlett's posts other than his obvious issue with the club mc or both'"
That's a fair point to be honest. I was tending to agree with Pop tart but you're right.
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| I do not have a vendetta against anyone I merely try to point out the stupidity of statements that cannot be verified.
I never backed Agar on the forum because he had gone long before I joined.
I read the same basic statement on nearly every post which on one thread covers over 20 pages.
Let the court case proceed if it does and providing the club win you can start another 20 + page thread. If they lose which they had better not the costs I would expect to be very large and I doubt they will ask the ratepayers of Wakefield to stand the cost.
If you believe what you post about Box or now Jeffries any of you can stand it is still a free country but only just.
The forum I regret is now the domain of a small group of like minded people who struggle with dissension. How many members no longer post, I guess you will soon have it all to yourselves.
Your mantra is ban those who dare to ask questions because they have no right to post on this forum. What we say should be accepted as fact even if we have to do it multiple times.
I am a Wakefield supporter for over 40 years but why makes me different from some is that I do not blindly accept everything coming from the club or any other source particularly members of the forum
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Sorry PT so are the Cas fans but hasn't stopped you issuing warnings to them about why their comments might not be welcome Plus there is no substance to Scarlett's posts other than his obvious issue with the club mc or both'"
I've been clear to the Cas fans that it isn't their forum so need to understand they will be treated more harshly if they (or any other away fan) come on to troll or wind us up.
As far as I know Scarlett is a Wakefield fan.
If I was judging posts on substance there would pretty much be a couple of Trust members left on here
And no one has ever reported anything he has said.
In the same example, plenty of people had a problem with Glover when he was chairman and aired their view a lot on here. I'm pretty supportive of our chairman and what he has done for the club but the rules apply to us all equally on here. Me included.
Unless a posted says something against the AUP they are pretty free to go.
Saying that I'll look at the posts again.
If anyone can give a good example where the AUP has been breached then I or Wildthing can deal with it just like anyone else.
Irritating you or having a different opinion isn't one of those examples though.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I do not have a vendetta against anyone I merely try to point out the stupidity of statements that cannot be verified.
I never backed Agar on the forum because he had gone long before I joined.
I read the same basic statement on nearly every post which on one thread covers over 20 pages.
Let the court case proceed if it does and providing the club win you can start another 20 + page thread. If they lose which they had better not the costs I would expect to be very large and I doubt they will ask the ratepayers of Wakefield to stand the cost.
If you believe what you post about Box or now Jeffries any of you can stand it is still a free country but only just.
The forum I regret is now the domain of a small group of like minded people who struggle with dissension. How many members no longer post, I guess you will soon have it all to yourselves.
Your mantra is ban those who dare to ask questions because they have no right to post on this forum. What we say should be accepted as fact even if we have to do it multiple times.
I am a Wakefield supporter for over 40 years but why makes me different from some is that I do not blindly accept everything coming from the club or any other source particularly members of the forum'"
You say you are a supporter of the club yet all your posts appear negative towards it and it’s chairman.
You say the comments cannot be verified but how do you know? In any event it is peoples views based on the information put forward by the club/trust vs that supplied by the council. Most people want the best for the club and can see the clear agenda on the councils part to look like they have done all they can and make out it’s the clubs fault nothing has happened.
Part of the reason the thread is so long is things keep needing repeating as people seem to keep coming up with views based on a clear misunderstanding of the information laid before them and the record needs setting straight
Also just cos a number of folk think box and his cronies are useless why do we need to stand against them? It’s like me suggesting you offer to buy the club from MC as you seem to suggest he isn’t acting in the best interests of the club
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