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| Quote ="les-goose"That 1st half they played the conditions far better and when kicking on the last tackle put it across the floor where we were dumb hoisting it in the air.They run out of steam in that last 10 mins or things could have been so different.I hear the reason Sammut didn't play was a strained calf.Mom for me was Mathers didn't let anyone down and did all that was asked of him for a change.'"
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| Quote ="trinfan71"Granted the performance may have been substandard, but ask yourself this. Would you rather see an ugly win or a pretty loss? Two points on the league table is what counts.'"
I would rather see an ugly win every day of the week, unfortunately we were playing the worst team in the league & just managed to scrape that ugly win.
The omens don’t look good for the rest of the season especially when the best forward on the field is on his way soon. Tautai has nothing to play for, he’s off to play at the highest level,yet he out-performed the rest of the pack, who you would think have something to play for with SL survival & all.
The five win buffer looks quite comfortable at the minute but I can’t for the life of me see where another win will come from, based on recent performances.
Maybe the “new broom” will take a little while to change some of the structures, especially now Timmy’s back, but I fear it’s going to be a long hard slog to the end of the season.
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| A wins a win and now you're safe and above Salford. Webster now has the luxury of some time to start getting things in place for next season. I know its hard for fans when deciding do i pay money to watch experiments but you have got to try and back the team. Did the reduced admission help the attendance at all?
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| First half London played the percentage game very well in the conditions and capitalised on mistakes that would clearly happen in the conditions. Yet again our handling was terrible accepting the conditions tonight. I thought our discipline in the ruck was pretty poor with a couple of needless penalties.
London kicked well in the first half however we were playing the game at the wrong end for much of the first half, I would have liked to have got out of trouble more or reduced the risk of mistakes by hoofing the ball into London's half and force them to make mistakes. That said we lost the ball on the second tackle in their 20 from a penalty that summed up the first half for me.
The second half we played better and won the percentage side. I still think we struggled near the line in attack and just like London had some luck in the first half scoring we had the same in the second. We kept them out for the second hlf and that has to be a positive given the mount of ball they had.
Oh I have just looked at the table in the paper we are above Salford and 8 points in front of the relegation place. Something to celebrate even if the performance was not the prettiest. I would rather see the paper today that playe din a classic match and just lost.
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| Have to say this was the worst win I have probably seen but like the rest of you I'll take it. I felt a sense of panic and the conditions just compounded this. Owen was getting very frustrated not getting the ball and I think we will utilise him more when Smith settles in and of course the conditions are dryer. In all a good result to build on.
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| Can anyone explain why Washbrook is in the team.
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| It was a classic team with nothing to lose performances by London compared to our first half where we were ultra cautious. I guess the weather added to our no mistake first half policy resulting in us losing the ball and making silly mistakes. This just added more pressure on an already nervous team and I guess they just forgot to adjust to the conditions.
The second half they played the conditions better and once we levelled the score I thought we started to play with more confidence resulting in better rugby by us.
I understand the decision to put Sykes at 6 because he and Smith had played together for the best part of two seasons (injuries aside). I would expect that with Smith participating in more training sessions it will give him an opportunity to work with Sammut.
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| Quote ="Brian Briggs Ghost"Can anyone explain why Washbrook is in the team.'"
Not a big fan of Washbrooke but I thought he had a decent 80 minutes, all things considered.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Not a big fan of Washbrooke but I thought he had a decent 80 minutes, all things considered.'"
I thought he was worst person on pitch & that includes the ref who appeared out of his depth.
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| Washbrook was ok last night.
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| Quote ="Brian Briggs Ghost"I thought he was worst person on pitch & that includes the ref who appeared out of his depth.'"
Worst on the pitch was Godinet. Swings and roundabouts with Ref.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Worst on the pitch was Godinet. Swings and roundabouts with Ref.'"
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| Time to face facts that we are 11th in the league table (probably back to 12 tomorrow) because we are not that good.
Let's hope that we can limp along to the end of the season and get stronger for 2015.
If we are cr@p every week, it's probably because we are cr@p.
Our forwards (apart from Tautai) are just not capable of breaking the opposition line.
On the plus side, we did get 2 points and thank god that Mr Glover put a roof on the North Stand
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Time to face facts that we are 11th in the league table (probably back to 12 tomorrow) because we are not that good.
Let's hope that we can limp along to the end of the season and get stronger for 2015.
If we are cr@p every week, it's probably because we are cr@p.
Our forwards (apart from Tautai) are just not capable of breaking the opposition line.
On the plus side, we did get 2 points and thank god that Mr Glover put a roof on the North Stand
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Best post I've seen on here all season.
it's not a negative, just reality.
We are a team full of players who, with the odd exception , wouldn't get a gig at any other SL club, and if they weren't here would be playing Championship rugby/2nd grade in Oz.
It's no coincidence that us Bradford and London were the only teams not to strengthen or at least keep a similar playing roster in the close season.
Any talk of this lot being able to compete for a top 8 place is fanciful garbage.
We have what we have and to simply stay up this season would be a success and against many people's expectations
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I was standing at the south end of the ground. The noise coming out of the North Stand last night was great and I'm sure encouraged the players to give a bit more effort in the second half. It's the sort of support and encouragement the team will need if we are to stay up this season.
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| Quote ="DWA"Best post I've seen on here all season.
it's not a negative, just reality.
We are a team full of players who, with the odd exception , wouldn't get a gig at any other SL club, and if they weren't here would be playing Championship rugby/2nd grade in Oz.
It's no coincidence that us Bradford and London were the only teams not to strengthen or at least keep a similar playing roster in the close season.
Any talk of this lot being able to compete for a top 8 place is fanciful garbage.
We have what we have and to simply stay up this season would be a success and against many people's expectations
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I was standing at the south end of the ground. The noise coming out of the North Stand last night was great and I'm sure encouraged the players to give a bit more effort in the second half. It's the sort of support and encouragement the team will need if we are to stay up this season.'"
You may have a point to a certain extent, although it's the lack of effort that concerns me more. Imo, this team should be more competitive then it is (without necessarily winning many more games) and would be if the vast majority played like they gave a toss
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| I was in a box this week so had a perfect view of Kirmond's try.
Perfect pass from Smith. Beautiful thing to see.
Kirmond loved it. More of that please.
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| Alas we are what we are its a fact we have to face that we just aint good enough but it would help if ALL the players put the effort in instead of going through the motions.I think of all the players sold let go that we have missed is Smith to guide us round the field and Aiton for the pure 80 mins of graft and hard tackling he gave us in the middle of the field.Just a shame we couldn't have let Washbrook go instead of Aiton who could have then gone to 13.
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| First of all I went, got a £10 ticket from a neighbour. Not the best tenner I've ever spent but hey.
What I'm wondering is what exactly were people expecting?
Webster picked a good enough team, I really don't get this Sammut stuff, he's been anonymous since game 1 and no way is a an automatic choice. Those demanding his selection are either watching a different player or are blinkered to his reputation which I feel he has forgotten to bring with him. Or maybe just maybe he's a bad egg and Webster has spotted that, obviously he doesn't know the team and players as well as we do - let's give him some slack on this as unlike Agar he's not had the time or chance to express his own ideas and after all nobody was rating any of Agars selections by the end anyway and maybe he should have dropped Sammut (just a thought).
Now the conditions.
I'm no Smith fan but for the first game back he did ok. Sadly the conditions could not have been more against his style of play unless it had snowed. For me the ONLY worthwhile part of Smith game is his passing which apart from a sublime pass to Kirmond was wrecked last night - neither Webster or Smith can be blamed for that.
Ditto the rest really. In conditions like yesterdays it's always the team that came out to play that will suffer and YOU yes YOU lot were demanding that. Not easy to change that mind set 20 minutes before kick off. The first half was nothing but a lottery which we lost.
The real positive was a half time team talk that actually worked! The team steadied and were much the better team in the second half (I say that relative to the opposition).
No rose tinted from me, we still don't look a good team but that wasn't going to change in two week no matter who got the coaching gig - there is no Solomona etc in this team.
Still a couple more wins and we are safe. Oddly I feel that with a bit of tweaking and a good off season this team could come back next season a far better outfit - patience required I suppose.
Finally Lucas Wallshaw - he has now convinced me he's a player of some real potential, probably a S/R but for now a centre. He created the last try and was a constant attacking threat. He also made some great tackle. Bit weak in the air and that needs working on as at 6'7" he should be the opposite. He's also not that slow for a big lad which seems to be another pre conceived bit of nonsense peddled on here.
He's out of contract soon and if we don't want to see him at Hudds or Cas next year I suggest MC gets a move on - or history will as ever repeat itself.
So we are still a poor team, it was a very ugly win against a team who probably deserved a point for pure effort and discipline. As did their 8 fans who though annoying deserve a medal they really do. I'd like now to see Webster start to use the likes of Wildie and Anakin as much as possible for the rest of the season (when appropriate of course). But as others have said a wins a win.
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| Walshaw smashed a couple of knocks out of London late in the game last night and is defence all night looked very good.
He put Riley away but got it slightly wrong and a few minutes later Riley showed him just how to do it.
Worth £10 of my money to watch Walshaw play any day and he's still learning.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Walshaw smashed a couple of knocks out of London late in the game last night and is defence all night looked very good.
He put Riley away but got it slightly wrong and a few minutes later Riley showed him just how to do it.
Worth £10 of my money to watch Walshaw play any day and he's still learning.'"
He has to be the number one priority to sign up. He is young and there are flaws in his game, particularly passing, but the raw potential is huge. I'd have him working with Ali and Collis to improve his distribution and we could have one of the most destructive wide runners in the league on our hands.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I was in a box this week so had a perfect view of Kirmond's try.
Perfect pass from Smith. Beautiful thing to see.
Kirmond loved it. More of that please.'"
Just like old times. We even had Sykes missing the reasonably kickable conversion to further take us back 12 months.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Just like old times. We even had Sykes missing the reasonably kickable conversion to further take us back 12 months.'"
Bit unfair - even Don Fox missed those and he most certainly redeemed it with that monster penalty kick.
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| Quote ="vastman"Bit unfair - even Don Fox missed those and he most certainly redeemed it with that monster penalty kick.
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| Just drifting off the rugby slightly,a happy birthday to Matt Ryan on Friday,and a well deserved MOM
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| Agree with Walshaw comments..he'd be worth a 2 year deal .
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