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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"Think Wakefield fans need to leave this alone.
Whether Griffin should have reacted it was started, not for the first time by a Wakefield fan (idiot fan imo)
It doesn't do us any good.
Don't know why they were so bothered about him as the game was at a key point then.'"
It makes no odds Griffin should just laughed it off and walked away, if the bottle had hit some one not involved and caused injury, he could of landed him self in hot water... 
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| Many players have been to grounds and copped it from the crowd. If its racist or personal then of order anything else is part and parcel of game in my opinion. The fact that he reacted and threw something into the crowd isn't and he should be done for this.
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| Spare a thought for refs and TJ's what Griff may have got for a few seconds yesterday they get for a full 80 minutes everyweek.
Also just to spice things up a bit ,I heard we have been in talks recently with a view to a return to us.
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| Quote wildycat="wildycat"It makes no odds Griffin should just laughed it off and walked away, if the bottle had hit some one not involved and caused injury, he could of landed him self in hot water...
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I sure whoever it was is proud. But I go to watch my team play rugby not shout abuse at someone who I know I am protected from because he should have more about him than I should.
I don't care what happens to him though, I care what happens to us. It will still go down as a crowd incident.
A plastic bottle is hardly going to hurt anyone though lets not get all drama queen about it.
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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"Get what you're saying but you can't go reacting to people in the crowd that way,there would be absolute bedlam if players acted that way. In fact even if you're on the street and someone called you a name, you can't go throwing you're weight around.'"
I'll qualify the comment, i don't condone any such acts perpitrated by any pro sportsmen (or amature for that matter), however you cannot say what you want to people and not expect a "negative" response - and then berate them. That is lunacy.
I have two analogies 1) i work in a school wher children constantly push the boundaries/are provocative and are not conserned with the consequences until they either smack them in the mouth or are dealt with via the school behavioural systems and then cry foul and try to abuse the system or use the system they have abused on someone else. 2) would the individual conserned have gone up to said player in the pub and said "excuse me Mr T. Pot would you mind stepping outside i would like to say something to you? the answer to that is in most cases is - i think not!!
All im suggesting is people apply common sense, weve all shouted at players and refs and water carriers etc - just dont be surprised if they answer back (or chuck water bottles.)
That said if a spectator throws an object they are dealt with by the club (banned etc) or the police, it will be interesting to see if any action is taken by either the RFL or Salford against a player in this instance.
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| Quote newgroundb4cas="newgroundb4cas"Ha ha are you for real ? YOU ARE SERIOUSLY
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I think you lack the necessary levels of inteligence or the descriptive powers to enter into such a conversation.
Stick to using the pictures, SHOUTING, and making yourself look stoooopid!! 
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| Quote kinleycat="kinleycat"I'll qualify the comment, i don't condone any such acts perpitrated by any pro sportsmen (or amature for that matter), however you cannot say what you want to people and not expect a "negative" response - and then berate them when you get one. That is lunacy.
I have two analagies 1) i work in a school where children constantly push the boundaries/are provocative and are not conserned with the consequences until they either smack them in the mouth or are dealt with via the school behavioural systems and then cry foul and try to abuse the system or use the system they have abused on someone else. 2) would the individual conserned have gone up to said player in the pub and said "excuse me Mr T. Pot would you mind stepping outside i would like to say something to you? the answer to that is in most cases is - i think not!!
All im suggesting is people apply common sense, weve all shouted at players and refs and water carriers etc - just dont be surprised if they answer back (or chuck water bottles.)
That said if a spectator throws an object they are dealt with by the club (banned etc) or the police, it will be interesting to see if any action is taken by either the RFL or Salford against a player in this instance.'"
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| Isn't baiting the opposition players all part of the spectacle? Let's not get holier than thou. I don't have a problem with people abusing players provided that it doesn't overstep the mark in terms of human decency (racial, homophobic, a bit too personal). Players expect it, and I expect a lot enjoy it. Can there be a better thing to score against a crowd that has been on your back for 80 minutes?
When I have seen players respond in jest, it has always gone down well. Solomona making "singalong" gestures when people were chanting suggestions that he may be overweight, or Greg Bird in his first game when he made a drinking gesture. The fans know it is pantomime, and so do the players. The fact that Griffin bit just shows that he lost the plot and the abuse had the desired effect. It put him off.
If a fan threw a bottle at a player, he would expect a ban. Griffin might have to cop for the same.
My post about his shirt was really just to point out that he seems to view his time with Wakey with some pride. Maybe it was his debut shirt?
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| Quote kinleycat="kinleycat"I think you lack the necessary levels of inteligence or the descriptive powers to enter into such a conversation.
Stick to using the pictures, SHOUTING, and making yourself look stoooopid!!
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There is only one person who is looking stupid here my friend and thats you  . Whether he is a pro or not you say. So when Ashley cole goes to every football ground he is allowed to flip and throw water into the crowd. HE got called a bell end for god sake that is nothing. You are pure comedy add little to any debate and when you do same something its special  .
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| Quote newgroundb4cas="newgroundb4cas"There is only one person who is looking stupid here my friend and thats you
. Whether he is a pro or not you say. =#FF0000So when Ashley cole goes to every football ground he is allowed to flip and throw water into the crowd. HE got called a bell end for god sake that is nothing. You are pure comedy add little to any debate and when you do same something its special
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=#FF0000Don't really understand what you mean.
I bet you only call people bell ends from the safety of your PC??
Simply (just for you) if you insult someone and don't consider that there might be negative consequences then you are simple (  ) if you do and there are, then thats pretty much all you can expect.
The insult came before the re-action - therfore remove the former and the latter ceases to be.
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"Isn't baiting the opposition players all part of the spectacle? Let's not get holier than thou. I don't have a problem with people abusing players provided that it doesn't overstep the mark in terms of human decency (racial, homophobic, a bit too personal). Players expect it, and I expect a lot enjoy it. Can there be a better thing to score against a crowd that has been on your back for 80 minutes?
When I have seen players respond in jest, it has always gone down well. Solomona making "singalong" gestures when people were chanting suggestions that he may be overweight, or Greg Bird in his first game when he made a drinking gesture. The fans know it is pantomime, and so do the players. The fact that Griffin bit just shows that he lost the plot and the abuse had the desired effect. It put him off.
If a fan threw a bottle at a player, he would expect a ban. Griffin might have to cop for the same.
My post about his shirt was really just to point out that he seems to view his time with Wakey with some pride. Maybe it was his debut shirt?'"
I am not saying that baiting doesn't or should'nt happen - as i posted we've all done it.
My issue is that when someone (a player) reacts its all there fault and they should be punished.
As people prove endlessly on this forum its easy to be an anonymous warrior, how many would have gone up to Griffin and called him a bell end - not many, but its ok to do it from the crowd and then decry the player for reacting.
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| Quote MOPSEY LIVES ON="MOPSEY LIVES ON"after walking off the field today and exchanging words with a spectator mr griffin decided to launch a bottle at him. the security were there in a flash and realised the problem was caused by griffin. id like to think this is now a matter for the rfl, what an absolute idiot and to think hes a proffessional player.'"
Im innocent... although Id like to buy whoever the fan was a pint !!
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