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| Quote tb="tb"I'm getting bored of this but
Name the minor counties cricket champions who've then been promoted to the county championship, or even the counties which have been relegated to the minor counties championship after finishing bottom of the county championship.'"
He said virtually, not all.
Don't let that stop you pontificating as per though.
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| Quote tb="tb"I'm getting bored of this but
Name the minor counties cricket champions who've then been promoted to the county championship, or even the counties which have been relegated to the minor counties championship after finishing bottom of the county championship.'"
Just one small point about your comment.
The major difference is you are comparing promotion and relegation from one competition to another, not from second tier to the top flight. Also comparing a sport that with the exception of the two division restructure and the inclusion of Durham in 1992 (increasing the competition to 18 teams) prior to that it was Glamorgan in 1921, it has been run under the same rules for decades.
So hardly the ideal comparison is it?????
One last point the EWCB (formerly ECB) have never operated a promotion and relegation system to and from the County Championship.
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| Quote tb="tb"I'm getting bored of this but
Name the minor counties cricket champions who've then been promoted to the county championship, or even the counties which have been relegated to the minor counties championship after finishing bottom of the county championship.'"
Oh goody, a quiz.
Ohy sorry its not,you just didnt read the post properly.
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| Quote trinfan71="trinfan71"Just one small point about your comment.
The major difference is you are comparing promotion and relegation from one competition to another, .'"
So exactly like Super League and the two-division of the Co-op Championship then, or indeed, like the two-division Co-op Championship and the Rugby League Conference.
one professional competition
one semi pro competition
one amateur competition
No automatic p and r between the different comps, but clubs from the RLC can apply to join the championship (and once they're in, they're in for good) and teams from the semi-pro Conference can apply, alongside existing professional clubs, for a three-year stay in the professional competition, subject to meeting on (and off) field qualifying criteria. 
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| That really is a case of them and us tb. The difference is there used to be P&R between the divisions containing all the member clubs, that never existed in the cricket case you have mentioned. The dilution of our once great game started when the greedy top clubs decided to keep all the money for themselves and not divvy it up on a sliding scale from top to bottom of the RFL member clubs based on finishing position....ie the start of the widening of the gap between the haves and stolen froms.
The gap has widened not because of mismanagement TWO THIRDS of the RFL members, but the removal of funding from those members. How many of the member clubs outside SL actually managed to qualify for the supposed £100k funding which the RFL proudly shouted from the rooftops, leading everyone to believe that every club outside SL actually got that amount. They lied if thats the impression they were trying to give.
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| Quote tb="tb"So exactly like Super League and the two-division of the Co-op Championship then, or indeed, like the two-division Co-op Championship and the Rugby League Conference.
one professional competition
one semi pro competition
one amateur competition
No automatic p and r between the different comps, but clubs from the RLC can apply to join the championship (and once they're in, they're in for good) and teams from the semi-pro Conference can apply, alongside existing professional clubs, for a three-year stay in the professional competition, subject to meeting on (and off) field qualifying criteria.
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You can't change the basis of your argument once it is flawed as you have done. You tried to compare a sport that in it's entire history has never had promotion from the (lesser) Minor Counties league to the County Championship and then compare it to Super League, Co-op Championship and Conference.
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| Quote tb="tb"I'm getting bored of this but
Name the minor counties cricket champions who've then been promoted to the county championship, or even the counties which have been relegated to the minor counties championship after finishing bottom of the county championship.'"
That's like the equivalent of Cas Panthers joining CH1 - it doesn't happen.
But there IS promotion and relegation between the 2 divisions of pro-cricket.
Very bad example. 0/10 must do better!
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| Quote tb="tb"I'm getting bored of this but
Name the minor counties cricket champions who've then been promoted to the county championship,'"
 Durham.
Not bad on sport,pop music and geography generally, but my specialist subject is Chinese Takeaways 
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| Quote TRB="TRB"That's like the equivalent of Cas Panthers joining CH1 - it doesn't happen. '"
I disagree. The equivalent of Castleford Panthers joining championship 1 would be a team from the Yorkshire or Lancashire leagues joining the minor counties championship
Quote TRB="TRB"But there IS promotion and relegation between the 2 divisions of pro-cricket.'"
Indeed. And I look forward to the day when professional rugby league (ie Super League) is big enough to split into divisions with p&r between them. It isn't. There are at most 2 teams outside SL atm capable of being professional full time outfits, imo. And at most 14 teams inside SL (though given recent events at a number of clubs, not least, but not exclusively, Wrexham and Wakefield, some might argue there's not as many as 14  ) However, the fact that cricket's authorities split one of the professional comps into two divisions in 2000 doesn't really bear on the argument for promotion and relegation between professional and semiprofessional comps – the comparison would be promotion and relegation between the professional full time county championship and the semiprofessional part time minor counties championship
Quote TRB="TRB"Very bad example. 0/10 must do better!'"
I disagree. Very good example, the division between full-time professional comp and part time semi pro comp compares will with Super League and the Championship (both divisions). 8/10 (I've deducted two points from myself for not giving due attention to DemonUK's 'virtually'  )
Quote TRB="chissitt":THINK: Durham.
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Nope, they applied for and were granted the equivalent of a franchise in 1991 (but without the RL time limit). Same as Glamorgan in 1921 and similar to Devon in 1948 (applied, but got rejected as not good enough).
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| Quote tb="tb"I disagree. The equivalent of Castleford Panthers joining championship 1 would be a team from the Yorkshire or Lancashire leagues joining the minor counties championship
Indeed. And I look forward to the day when professional rugby league (ie Super League) is big enough to split into divisions with p&r between them. It isn't. There are at most 2 teams outside SL atm capable of being professional full time outfits, imo. And at most 14 teams inside SL (though given recent events at a number of clubs, not least, but not exclusively, Wrexham and Wakefield, some might argue there's not as many as 14
) However, the fact that cricket's authorities split one of the professional comps into two divisions in 2000 doesn't really bear on the argument for promotion and relegation between professional and semiprofessional comps – the comparison would be promotion and relegation between the professional full time county championship and the semiprofessional part time minor counties championship
I disagree. Very good example, the division between full-time professional comp and part time semi pro comp compares will with Super League and the Championship (both divisions). 8/10 (I've deducted two points from myself for not giving due attention to DemonUK's 'virtually'
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Nope, they applied for and were granted the equivalent of a franchise in 1991 (but without the RL time limit). Same as Glamorgan in 1921 and similar to Devon in 1948 (applied, but got rejected as not good enough).'"
do you actually get up each morning and think today im going to be slightly more boring than i was yesterday??
dont want to keep you though, trains to be spotted no doubt?
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