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| this is so so bad
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| Quote: Wildthing "]Really? says zilch of interest to me.'" ]
Why does that not surprise me?
I actually said he was an interesting new poster, not an interesting post.
Wonder why he's posted on the Cas board about it and not on here, or maybe he has under a different name.
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| Back on topic is the deadline 31st Oct, still time
Up the Trin
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| My sentiment exactly M62 J30
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "My sentiment exactly M62 J30'"
You two just don't get it - we've been stitched up good and proper, smell the coffee lads.
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| Quote: JINJER "£100,000 a year rent appears to be the rent we're supposed to be paying, I wonder what other SL clubs pay in rental Wigan, Hull FC, Salford etc?'"
Can't help you on Wigan or Salford pal but I know what the figures for Hull FC were 3 years ago.
Surprisingly they weren't charged per year but per match.
It was £15,000 per game so if you add a bit of inflation in it would be about £250,000 per season.
To be fair its twice the size of Belle Vue so half that would seem reasonable.
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33791.jpg [b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable
...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo]
[quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
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| In my rather large stack of 'Stadium' papers I have copy of the original draft heads of terms for the lease, submitted by the Trust and WMDC to the HM Inspector Harold Stephens, at the public inquiry.
Would you like to know what it says... or can you guess? The word Peppercorn is in there...
We should not loose sight of what was promised to the citizens of Wakefield at the PI, in return for a rather substantial piece of land being lifted out of Greenbelt Colin Mackie was going to build a 12,000 capacity stadium (upon receipt of £2m from the Trust via WMDC) and he was going to lease that to the Community Trust on a 99 year lease for a peppercorn rent. The Trust would then lease the stadium to Wakefield Trinity as anchor tenant, the details of that lease were not part of the HOT because they didn't need to be, but it was always understood that the Trust would lease the stadium to the Club on a FIR lease and that annual lease value would have been small, to primarily allow the Trust to meet it's legal requirements (pay the accountant etc) and also provide a growing sinking fund to protect the stadium in the long term, if the current club ever went pop or was relegated etc.
Also, yes, it was always a Community Stadium project and it was envisaged the Trust would facilitate and fund/subsidise community use around the Clubs requirement but, the special circumstance that was used by Mackie and WMDC to justify the lifting of this land out of Greenbelt was Wakefield Trinity's need for a new stadium for the long term future of the Rugby League and the Club in the City.
Now, revisit Andy Wallheads (Peter Box written) statement...
I can tell you that the heads of term that the Trust and Club put together reflect, in principle, the above.
The Trust and the Club do not have mandate to accept anything less that was promised, because anything less is and will continue to short change the citizens of Wakefield!
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| Thanks for the update IA.
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| Quote: vastman "You two just don't get it - we've been stitched up good and proper, smell the coffee lads.'"
I do get it, I'm just keeping calm waiting for the club/trusts next move.
Up the Trin
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "In my rather large stack of 'Stadium' papers I have copy of the original draft heads of terms for the lease, submitted by the Trust and WMDC to the HM Inspector Harold Stephens, at the public inquiry.
Would you like to know what it says... or can you guess? The word Peppercorn is in there...
We should not loose sight of what was promised to the citizens of Wakefield at the PI, in return for a rather substantial piece of land being lifted out of Greenbelt Colin Mackie was going to build a 12,000 capacity stadium (upon receipt of £2m from the Trust via WMDC) and he was going to lease that to the Community Trust on a 99 year lease for a peppercorn rent. The Trust would then lease the stadium to Wakefield Trinity as anchor tenant, the details of that lease were not part of the HOT because they didn't need to be, but it was always understood that the Trust would lease the stadium to the Club on a FIR lease and that annual lease value would have been small, to primarily allow the Trust to meet it's legal requirements (pay the accountant etc) and also provide a growing sinking fund to protect the stadium in the long term, if the current club ever went pop or was relegated etc.
Also, yes, it was always a Community Stadium project and it was envisaged the Trust would facilitate and fund/subsidise community use around the Clubs requirement but, the special circumstance that was used by Mackie and WMDC to justify the lifting of this land out of Greenbelt was Wakefield Trinity's need for a new stadium for the long term future of the Rugby League and the Club in the City.
Now, revisit Andy Wallheads (Peter Box written) statement...
I can tell you that the heads of term that the Trust and Club put together reflect, in principle, the above.
The Trust and the Club do not have mandate to accept anything less that was promised, because anything less is and will continue to short change the citizens of Wakefield!'"
What's the next stage in the battle IA. Could MC still negotiate a better deal than they're offering of is it a case of that's the deal and that's it?
Up the Trin
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "What's the next stage in the battle IA. Could MC still negotiate a better deal than they're offering of is it a case of that's the deal and that's it?
Up the Trin'"
It's F em time, they're taking the Michael, take em to court, if we lose we move to Dewsbury or Fev.
#boxinthedock
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| Quote: JINJER "It's F em time, they're taking the Michael, take em to court, if we lose we move to Dewsbury or Fev.
#boxinthedock'"
And even if we win we end up at Dewsbury or Fev. They are hardly going to be building us a stadium afterwards.
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33791.jpg [b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable
...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo]
[quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "What's the next stage in the battle IA. Could MC still negotiate a better deal than they're offering of is it a case of that's the deal and that's it?
Up the Trin'"
What deal 'they are' offering? The only pieces of paper that have been produced, have been produced by the club and the trust. The club and the trust have not seen one scrap of paper from WMDC, Mackie or 88M, not even a single sentence. They don't even take any meeting minutes!!! They got sent a copy of our proposed HoT and then ran to the press, without the usual and common courtesy of sending it to us first, and said that the club had broken off negotiation!
Email Andy Wallhead and ask him for a copy of the documentation that they have produced... you will be waiting a while!
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| Quote: Sacred Cow "And even if we win we end up at Dewsbury or Fev. They are hardly going to be building us a stadium afterwards.'"
Nope they're possibly not, but I'm of the "bite your nose off to spite your face" generation, make them squirm, let them feel what we're feeling, if we lose we move on.
As an aside, if we win, couldn't Box be demoted sacked? Could Yorkcourt be forced to build a stadium and if they declined could they be sued and forced out of business? No idea but wondered where it could all end.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "What deal 'they are' offering? The only pieces of paper that have been produced, have been produced by the club and the trust. The club and the trust have not seen one scrap of paper from WMDC, Mackie or 88M, not even a single sentence. They don't even take any meeting minutes!!! They got sent a copy of our proposed HoT and then ran to the press, without the usual and common courtesy of sending it to us first, and said that the club had broken off negotiation!
Email Andy Wallhead and ask him for a copy of the documentation that they have produced... you will be waiting a while!'"
BBC, Look north, Calendar, Daily sport? Has anyone of these carried this news?
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