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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "They helped the financial score but at the expense of fandom, social media and league position but it’s time to move on.'"


The whole score is down to them. That's it. No need to try and paint otherwise.
No other 'incumbants' since the 60s would have got to the next stage up in fandom.

You don't have to accept it......but you are wrong on this one.

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They have gone so like some keep saying “time to move on to a brighter more positive future”.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "They have gone so like some keep saying “time to move on to a brighter more positive future”.'"


But your little quips are not moving on as you imply they didn't do it.
Anyway. You are wrong. Let's move on icon_wink.gif

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You grovellers need the get over the fact your love children have departed. Rejoice rejoice, for we have been saved, like it or not matt the messiah as saved us

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.........And you need to give it a rest.....

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Quote: PopTart "But your little quips are not moving on as you imply they didn't do it.
Anyway. You are wrong. Let's move on
Yes they got the points we have today but how many more would it have been without the reduced fandom, social media and league position.
I am now happy to move on are you ?

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I've explained that. We wouldn't have got points.

I'll continue that point as it is important in these discussions.
If we are near a threshold, it's worth investing to get passed it to get more points.
The LED are an example of that.
Fandom, and specifically attendances, we are miles away from the next level up and have not had those average attendances in my lifetime, so they are long term gradual lifts, rather than quick fixes.
Carter could have invested 10 million but I don't think we'd have had a 3 year average attendance in the next level (haven't checked but think it's 7.5k)

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Being pleasantly surprised by the scoring, I've had a stab at the score breakdown. I have to admit to having to score higher than I predicted in some areas in order to reach the 12.52 score awarded by IMG.

But with the score bandings in most sections being structured very much in a way where common sense can rule out any other possibilities - it leaves only a few areas where the scores could differ. (Without knowing unpublished figures within accounts, official stadium capacities for this season etc).

The scores do support statements from the club - stronger than I envisaged in the Fandom and Financial areas. I actually do agree with some of the sentiments from Championship clubs that the scoring (particularly in fandom) heavily favors existing Super League clubs. And probably show the correct areas have been prioritised at WT, despite perceptions. As weak as I do think our marketing/social channels have been over the last few years...the stats tick the boxes needed within the criteria.

Also attempted to forecast next year's score, again heavily based on guesswork and common sense. But there are some notes to justify my thinking.

Grading handbook for ref: https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/do ... pdated.pdf

Attempted scoring breakdown: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =882465910
Being pleasantly surprised by the scoring, I've had a stab at the score breakdown. I have to admit to having to score higher than I predicted in some areas in order to reach the 12.52 score awarded by IMG.

But with the score bandings in most sections being structured very much in a way where common sense can rule out any other possibilities - it leaves only a few areas where the scores could differ. (Without knowing unpublished figures within accounts, official stadium capacities for this season etc).

The scores do support statements from the club - stronger than I envisaged in the Fandom and Financial areas. I actually do agree with some of the sentiments from Championship clubs that the scoring (particularly in fandom) heavily favors existing Super League clubs. And probably show the correct areas have been prioritised at WT, despite perceptions. As weak as I do think our marketing/social channels have been over the last few years...the stats tick the boxes needed within the criteria.

Also attempted to forecast next year's score, again heavily based on guesswork and common sense. But there are some notes to justify my thinking.

Grading handbook for ref: https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/do ... pdated.pdf

Attempted scoring breakdown: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =882465910


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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "You grovellers need the get over the fact your love children have departed. Rejoice rejoice, for we have been saved, like it or not matt the messiah as saved us'"

They have not departed ,still 100 % wide of the mark again, Mr Carter and John ,were hard at work in there office at 8 am .Why don't you take a day of would be great just to have 24 hours of silence .P S I am righting this slow because i here you are a slow reader

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Quote: alegend "They have not departed ,still 100 % wide of the mark again, Mr Carter and John ,were hard at work in there office at 8 am .Why don't you take a day of would be great just to have 24 hours of silence .P S I am righting this slow because i here you are a slow reader'"


I hear you can’t spell

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Quote: alegend "They have not departed ,still 100 % wide of the mark again, Mr Carter and John ,were hard at work in there office at 8 am .Why don't you take a day of would be great just to have 24 hours of silence .P S I am righting this slow because i here you are a slow reader'"
if you showed a bit of intelligence and was able to spell, I might be able to read it.

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "if you showed a bit of intelligence and was able to spell, I might be able to read it.'"

Best thing on this site is the ignore button, enabling gratuitously offensive and constantly bitching ingrates to scream into the void that matches the one in their skull.

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From the latest Wakefield announcement.........Matt Ellis, Club Owner, said ‘Wakefield Trinity is a club heading for the highest levels of the game. The illustrative grading scores demonstrate a solid foundation for us to build on in 2024 both on and off the field as Daryl builds a team focussed on success in the Championship. We have our eyes firmly set on a return to Super League in 2025. I’d also like to thank John Minards and Michael Carter for their immense efforts in getting us to this grading, it’s a great position to move onwards and upwards from in the coming year.’

https://wakefieldtrinity.com/wakefield- ... -outcomes/
From the latest Wakefield announcement.........Matt Ellis, Club Owner, said ‘Wakefield Trinity is a club heading for the highest levels of the game. The illustrative grading scores demonstrate a solid foundation for us to build on in 2024 both on and off the field as Daryl builds a team focussed on success in the Championship. We have our eyes firmly set on a return to Super League in 2025. I’d also like to thank John Minards and Michael Carter for their immense efforts in getting us to this grading, it’s a great position to move onwards and upwards from in the coming year.’

https://wakefieldtrinity.com/wakefield- ... -outcomes/


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Quote: PopTart "From the latest Wakefield announcement.........Matt Ellis, Club Owner, said ‘. I’d also like to thank John Minards and Michael Carter for their immense efforts in getting us to this grading, it’s a great position to move onwards and upwards from in the coming year.’

Obviously he didn’t say that, it’s been made up as we have it on GOOD AUTHORITY that they are failures (I put that bit in CAPS as that makes it a fact apparently icon_wink.gif )

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