The point being the style of players they are as opposed to the others mentioned. Miller and Tansey have the same style in the halves, where their game is based around footwork, speed and support play. Whether Tansey would do a better job than Miller is the debate and yes i have my doubts but if Miller continues to under-perform with the ball then it may well be worth trying out to see without having to change the whole system in place. Defensively they are similar, Miller has improved a lot recently recently but remember at times last season he looked like he couldn't tackle a hot dinner let alone anyone else so isn't infallible. Whilst you don't tend to pick a halfback for his defensive quality the have to be able to hold their own and both can to a similar level imho its just the attack that is failing. We have scored just 6 tries in 3 games, 3 of which have been from Howarth running from dummy half from inside the 10 meters. We may need to try something different soon and for me Finn has to stay so Miller is the one under threat. It can be all rendered immaterial though if Miller picks his game up and starts performing over the next couple of weeks.

At this moment in time I don't see how Howarth could be any worse an option than Miller. Sure he might be slow but Sykes and Smith weren't exactly quick.

3 games isn't long enough for a player to prove themselves but it's a pretty good platform to build on.
He's doing the basics right, his tackle count is going up with each game, I don't know what else you want or expect from Howarth?
As for who I would leave out when all three are fit, Howarth has already been given the 'nod' over Sio for the starting role.
Moore will be coming back from injury and will need to start off the bench.
The decision between Sio and Moore is BS's.
So unless Howarth slacks off or gets injured, it's Howarth starting until further notice.
It must disappoint you that your pre season, without a ball being kicked or passed 'scapegoat', is proving your expert eye wrong so far.
I will be back for a mid season assessment, as I think that we will end up going round in circles at the moment.

Other than personal reasons why would you want to move Howarth from a position he's doing rather well in at hooker and move him to a position he's apparently not played before just to remove Miller?

Rubbish, he's played S/O a few times and I've seen him or does he just state these things fun. I'd love to know where you got the "never" from. Followed every game he's been in have you?

Disagree by all means but don't make up "facts" you can't prove

Is he that slow? I know he's no speedster but I've seen slower halfbacks - Tim Smith springs to mind. I'm not saying your wrong I'm just not sure he is that slow.

He's slower than Miller but I wouldn't like to put money on a foot race between him and Finn right now.

I do love folk like you - you feel you can post as derogatory a comment as you wish but when someone has the audacity to hit back as hard or harder you run off blubbing. I made a very sensible suggestion, you chose to have a pop - at least be big enough to accept the consequences.

The bit in bold is truly arrogant, it's your opinion and that of a few others - doesn't make it so does it.

At no point did anyone think Sykes was a S/O and please don't pretend you did yet combined with Smith he was excellent. Tracey Lazenby also springs to mind as do many others. Trinity's recent history is full of players stepping up to the mark, when will people like you ever learne - it baffles me it really does. It's often a case of who fits and Howarth in my clearly nowhere near as clever opinion as yours is a player who fits with other players - just a thought.

But hey folks lets just carry on stereotyping players and not giving them the benefit because we all know the signing of Johnathan Thurston is just around the corner.

Miller is lightning quick but needs a foil, Howarth would offer that if Finn were injured. If Miller were injured then Fin and Howarth would perhaps be a little pedestrian but still IMHO a more serviceable partnership than Hall who is talented but as yet seems to be a bit spineless. I suppose Moore is the most obvious step up although it's a while since he's played at 6 or 7.

Quote: Sacred Cow "The point being the style of players they are as opposed to the others mentioned. Miller and Tansey have the same style in the halves, where their game is based around footwork, speed and support play. Whether Tansey would do a better job than Miller is the debate and yes i have my doubts but if Miller continues to under-perform with the ball then it may well be worth trying out to see without having to change the whole system in place. Defensively they are similar, Miller has improved a lot recently recently but remember at times last season he looked like he couldn't tackle a hot dinner let alone anyone else so isn't infallible. Whilst you don't tend to pick a halfback for his defensive quality the have to be able to hold their own and both can to a similar level imho its just the attack that is failing. We have scored just 6 tries in 3 games, 3 of which have been from Howarth running from dummy half from inside the 10 meters. We may need to try something different soon and for me Finn has to stay so Miller is the one under threat. It can be all rendered immaterial though if Miller picks his game up and starts performing over the next couple of weeks.'" So let me get this straight, Howarth is not a S/O and has never played there at SL level but Tansey is and has. Odd because Jordan Lewis Tansey doesn't even bother to mention that on his Wiki site his dominance of the position is such common knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Tansey Absolute comedy gold.

Quote: Sacred Cow "The point being the style of players they are as opposed to the others mentioned. Miller and Tansey have the same style in the halves, where their game is based around footwork, speed and support play. Whether Tansey would do a better job than Miller is the debate and yes i have my doubts but if Miller continues to under-perform with the ball then it may well be worth trying out to see without having to change the whole system in place. Defensively they are similar, Miller has improved a lot recently recently but remember at times last season he looked like he couldn't tackle a hot dinner let alone anyone else so isn't infallible. Whilst you don't tend to pick a halfback for his defensive quality the have to be able to hold their own and both can to a similar level imho its just the attack that is failing. We have scored just 6 tries in 3 games, 3 of which have been from Howarth running from dummy half from inside the 10 meters. We may need to try something different soon and for me Finn has to stay so Miller is the one under threat. It can be all rendered immaterial though if Miller picks his game up and starts performing over the next couple of weeks.'" So let me get this straight, Howarth is not a S/O and has never played there at SL level but Tansey is and has. Odd because Jordan Lewis Tansey doesn't even bother to mention that on his Wiki site his dominance of the position is such common knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Tansey Absolute comedy gold.

No you do it, it's your claim - seeing as it's squad numbers these days I'll be facinated to see how you do. You could give him a ring I suppose.

What you are doing is stating your own pre-concieved opinions as fact - but they are not facts are they