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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Powell says that but how many times in the past two years has he moaned about injuries.'"
He may mention injuries but thats not the same as using them as an excuse.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"Powell says that but how many times in the past two years has he moaned about injuries.'"
Powell is the new hero for the CC snipers like Wayne and co.
As for Belly he was telling us all last year that Salford had the best coach in SL if not the world. Minus Hastings it’s not quite the case is it! For some posters the grass is always greener elsewhere whilst people who leave Trinity are suddenly elevated to god status.
Funny but I bet if you went back far enough on these forums you’d find the same posters frothing at the mouth to get Kear sacked whilst nobody was rating the lad at Salford who’s name I forget.
Armchair coaching is the easiest gig on the planet.
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| Quote Fishermanscap="Fishermanscap"Powell is the new hero for the CC snipers like Wayne and co.
As for Belly he was telling us all last year that Salford had the best coach in SL if not the world. Minus Hastings it’s not quite the case is it! For some posters the grass is always greener elsewhere whilst people who leave Trinity are suddenly elevated to god status.
Funny but I bet if you went back far enough on these forums you’d find the same posters frothing at the mouth to get Kear sacked whilst nobody was rating the lad at Salford who’s name I forget.
Armchair coaching is the easiest gig on the planet.'"
Yeah exactly, Powell has done absolute wonders for Cas but then Chester has led us to two top 5 finishes in last 3 yearswith the lowest or at most 2nd lowest budget in the league. Our problem is that we have to take risks on players that other clubs don't want, sometimes it works out, sometimes not, but thats not the coaches fault. Neither is it his fault we have had long term injuries to key players last year.
People need to get off his case and let him work
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| The worrying thing for me is when Mr Chester got H K R to Wembley he played a weak team in the final because there were about 7 players injured and also some of the players that played .Beging of next season a lot of those players were still injured ,after about 5 matches HKR got rid . Seems to be a coach who can go well , but when injurys come does seam short on idears to get them fit
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| Quote alegend="alegend"The worrying thing for me is when Mr Chester got H K R to Wembley he played a weak team in the final because there were about 7 players injured and also some of the players that played .Beging of next season a lot of those players were still injured ,after about 5 matches HKR got rid . Seems to be a coach who can go well , but when injurys come does seam short on idears to get them fit'"
Because in both cases he had to be frugal with his money. He got some quality players in that were an injury risk and it worked until they got injured. The second string were not as good whether they tried hard or not.
I'd also say that our injuries last and into this season are massive. Cas have done well while handling their injuries but the ones they missed against Wigan were workers who can be replaced. They still had all their star men playing bar maybe the new winger.
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| The point is is Mr Chester pushing players with a small injury back too soon making it in to a worse one
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| Quote alegend="alegend"The point is is Mr Chester pushing players with a small injury back too soon making it in to a worse one'"
That is indeed a good point. Not sure who is responsible though. He has to take advice on that.
I do wonder about the medical team.
At the end of the day, Brough hurt his knee. Came off. Went back on and made it worse which cost us our no.7 for 4-6 weeks.
That sounds like a bad decision from someone.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"That is indeed a good point. Not sure who is responsible though. He has to take advice on that.
I do wonder about the medical team.
At the end of the day, Brough hurt his knee. Came off. Went back on and made it worse which cost us our no.7 for 4-6 weeks.
That sounds like a bad decision from someone.'"
Could it be that Broughy wanted to stay on and told the staff he was OK to continue?????
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| Quote BarnsleyGull="BarnsleyGull"Could it be that Broughy wanted to stay on and told the staff he was OK to continue?????'"
Point remains either way. Personally I dont see his extended period on the side lines as a bad thing.
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| Always been a big fan of Brough but think he could be one of Mr Chesters worst buys .Never been the same since he broke is hand . Think it's a case of a great player playing too long . Trouble is , it's a key position on the field
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| All what has been said I agree with, but further to this, just ask your self, Huddersfield knew they had to let go of broughy due to age, financial payments for a player at the end of his career with all the high risk of more injuries to an aged player, throw in that all plays had to go through broughy first causing near relegation then the tough decision was made, true Frawley ended up a poorer option but they persevered & nearly lossed out again, only to finally end up with a better choice in Sezer.
SO, what we thought we got in signing broughy was all the problems they recognised, however, there was always going to be the odd match where he excelled, But, not every week over a season !!!
I am not a Brough basher, I admire his skill set, but I know from evidence so far this situation Cannot & will not get better !!
Our problem is Money, we cannot afford a class half back player that is a proven match controller & match winner, let alone looking for one & who is available !!!
So we have to battle on, question - Can our coaching staff match the coaching ability of Powell or the Salford coach with the players we have, I like chester, but he is getting less responses now from his players, they simply have less stamina than most of the other sides & we are getting more & more tactically naive where we give up during matches.
FINALLY, I hope I am wrong on all counts, that would be most or more pleasing to me, in all these items I do not mind being wrong, I am scared of being right !!!
I will however keep going to support them in the hope of change & I do pay into trinity lines & payments so I am not bashing them !
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| Quote TrinTrin="TrinTrin"All what has been said I agree with, but further to this, just ask your self, Huddersfield knew they had to let go of broughy due to age, financial payments for a player at the end of his career with all the high risk of more injuries to an aged player, throw in that all plays had to go through broughy first causing near relegation then the tough decision was made, true Frawley ended up a poorer option but they persevered & nearly lossed out again, only to finally end up with a better choice in Sezer.
SO, what we thought we got in signing broughy was all the problems they recognised, however, there was always going to be the odd match where he excelled, But, not every week over a season !!!
I am not a Brough basher, I admire his skill set, but I know from evidence so far this situation Cannot & will not get better !!
Our problem is Money, we cannot afford a class half back player that is a proven match controller & match winner, let alone looking for one & who is available !!!
So we have to battle on, question - Can our coaching staff match the coaching ability of Powell or the Salford coach with the players we have, I like chester, but he is getting less responses now from his players, they simply have less stamina than most of the other sides & we are getting more & more tactically naive where we give up during matches.
FINALLY, I hope I am wrong on all counts, that would be most or more pleasing to me, in all these items I do not mind being wrong, I am scared of being right !!!
I will however keep going to support them in the hope of change & I do pay into trinity lines & payments so I am not bashing them !'"
We're saying all this of course, after one game! Forget the 'friendlies' they mean absolutely nothing.
I'm waiting for about 6-7 games to judge things, surely a better measure of how we're going?
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