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| Doesn't read well for the club - We need a statement from the club in the interim while they seek legal advice. Mainly for the citizens of wakefield, who will pick up a copy of the express on Friday with no doubt a front page cover of the news to push on with the stadium with us.
One thing I will say, as messy as it is, at least after 15 years of getting a new ground it's coming to a head. Decisions are being made and it's exciting times ahead.
Up the Trin!!
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| Reading the new WMDC statement a bit more, I'm not surprised the undelined was a bit of a sticking point.
Quote: "However, last week the owners submitted their own ‘heads of terms’ for the deal which insisted they retain sole control over the community stadium’s income and operations, whilst still offering nothing towards the capital costs of the development and refusing to pay a normal commercial rent. '"
Why should the club pay anything towards the stadium, we don't own it, 88m do. It's the same situation we were in when the BOI owned it and we didn't want to spend on something we have no juice in. If 88m want to redevelop and charge us a commercial rent that would be more reasonable
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| Quote: wakefield1990 "We need a statement from the club in the interim while they seek legal advice.'"
No, we really don't!
Like any fan, I'd like to know what's going on, get some reassurance and be able to have some confidence going forward.
However, the only thing that matters now, is that legally we have the high ground and nothing should be done to undermine that. Our cards need to stay firmly face down, until the hand needs to be played.
It feels like everyone's chips are going in...
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| i say good on them for having the balls to say we will build it anyway-88M want something in return for their investments it is their ground not ours we either accept how they want it run or leave . if that don't build a ground they will build houses,
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| Quote: BOJ042 "i say good on them for having the balls to say we will build it anyway-88M want something in return for their investments it is their ground not ours we either accept how they want it run or leave . if that don't build a ground they will build houses,'"
Oh do shut up And leave it to the grown ups as you clearly have no idea what's going on.
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| Quote: dboy "No, we really don't!
Like any fan, I'd like to know what's going on, get some reassurance and be able to have some confidence going forward.
However, the only thing that matters now, is that legally we have the high ground and nothing should be done to undermine that. Our cards need to stay firmly face down, until the hand needs to be played.
It feels like everyone's chips are going in...'"
The money used to fight this case will likely come from revenue brought in by fans on the club side and by rate payers on the council side. Like it or not, the club are losing the public confidence, which means that even if we win, we all lose as rate payers.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "Is the Trojan Horse reference deliberate, or just a turn of phrase?'"
Deliberate.
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| Quote: Egg Banjo "TLike it or not, the club are losing the public confidence, which means that even if we win, we all lose as rate payers.'"
What does that nonsense even mean?
How do you know the club have lost the faith of the public? Very interested to know how you have measured this.
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| Quote: dboy "No, we really don't!
Like any fan, I'd like to know what's going on, get some reassurance and be able to have some confidence going forward.
However, the only thing that matters now, is that legally we have the high ground and nothing should be done to undermine that. Our cards need to stay firmly face down, until the hand needs to be played.
It feels like everyone's chips are going in...'"
I appreciate what you are saying but I can't see this going any further than thrashing it out between all parties, the club can't afford to take things fully legal and I doubt they will waste the money doing so.Nothing is ever documented and the council haven't produced one single piece of paper. What have they actually done wrong which is documented in writing? yes the white box should count towards the trigger point but it's pretty much impossible to prove this is an inside job to not form part of the sq.ft. These are clever people and I appreciate we are chasing what was first promised from the outset however the only way to move forward is come to some sort of middle ground.
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| [list Quote: dboy "What does that nonsense even mean?
How do you know the club have lost the faith of the public? Very interested to know how you have measured this.'"
Read any of the social media posts by either the council or local news on this subject, it can easily be broken down into Trinity supporters and everyone else, the everyone else contingent are pretty much all against the club and see it as greedy or wanting something for nothing following the last two council press releases. These people who pay rates but have no interest in rugby are largely against the development of the stadium as the council have made it seem like we're demanding rate payers subsidise a private company
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| Social media is only representative of the people who use it and who can be bothered to interact.
Carter, Box, Hussein are not playing this game on social media - some parties are clearly trying to use it for spin, but it changes nothing.
I also doubt the end game will be a court visit, but if it is, the courts couldn't care less about the weight of posts one way or the other.
I believe we are right morally and right in the eyes of the law, though the only guaranteed winners there are the lawyers.
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| What a bizarre statement and turn of events. I too saw a community stadium for the district and straight away thought of Cas, but 88m involvement suggests otherwise.
I have to laugh at the council throwing the dummy out over the lack of apprent funding from the club towards the stadium then invite all interested sports clubs to come to the table. Who exactly are they expecting to turn up? Manchester United?! Who on earth other than Trinity would be in a position to pay a commercial rent? Wakefield FC?! Thornes Juniors?!
All i can see is a load of guff from a very worried local authority who seem to be shooting from the hip.
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| Fair point about people believing what is said in the media . A friend to day said your chairman wants a stadium but not willing to pay a penny towards it .he said that's the way it coming across in the media . The sooner Wakefield make a statement the better
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| This is no criticism of MC and the trust, but..... Just put yourself in the position of Joe Public, you know practically nothing of the real story because the Wakey express have seriously kept their nose out of this till recent weeks. You don't read the forums, facebook or Twitter, WMDC have put out their last two pieces of propaganda with no reply from our Trust or Trinity, hand on heart, what would you think?
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| I'd be thinking why on earth would a council be willing to build a stadium but have no idea who is going to play in it. I'd be thinking aside from the only professional sports team in the city, who can ultimately make it viable.
Oh and there are plenty of people who have no interest in RL whatsoever but are aware of how much of a snake Box is.
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