I was gonna say the same. Do some people expect us not to renew Grix and just hope that Max will last the year? Like Vasty says he's got to be looking & backing himself for his opportunity to impress. Whether that's in pre season or if Grix gets injured and then take the opportunity to keep the No.1 shirt.

I'm really happy with this and hope he knows the majority of fans are behind him. After the Saints game we know what was said but thankfullly he put it behind him. I can only see Max benefitting from Grixy being at Wakefield and he will probably express his gratitude when he finally gets the shirt

This is where we suffer from the lack of A teams. That's where players used to prove their form and hopefully take their place. Now, of course, it depends on first choice being injured or hitting poor form,or being farmed out to, mostly, inferior teams.

On reflection Grix is the best full back we've had at the club in god knows how long, (feel free to name a better one in the last 15 years) I think the few mistakes he's made and they are few were just massively obvious and costly (sadly)

I don't see how any one can't be happy with re signing though, minus the howlers he's class, If Jowitt is good enough and clearly he has talent he will come though when the time is right, he'll learn from Grix too, its all to the benefit of Grix, Jowitt and ultimately Wakefield

I’ve no doubt Max will learn from Scott, but these young players , in an ideal world,need to play week in week out wether it’s A team on loan, duel reg and not sat in the stands so they are at least battle hardened if called upon.

Everybody can see that except the powers that be.

For me there are three ways around it.

1. Restart the A team league making it compulsory. Expensive but the best way imho. However to keep cost down make it regional.

2. As above but on an ad hoc basis. More like friendlies with maybe a cup comp thrown in.

3. Allow up to four guest players who are over 20 but under 23 to play in the academy. Makes the u19's more realistic and because all teams are doing it there will be a competitive edge. I think there would need to be some restriction other than just being under 23. I'd say 40 games or above in the first team excludes you. Certain size restrictions though tbh that would be rare.

Number three would be ideal for the likes of Jowitt and Crowther. Still in the RWB, still at the club playing against at least some players of a similar standard. I know it's not perfect but it's workable and basically costs nothing.

Something needs to give because this idea that all players should be ready for first team by 21 is utterly ludicrous and is costing the game a lot of talent.

I think the worry for me with Max is that he seems to have stagnated over the last year. Whether that’s because he hasn’t had the game time or not I don’t know.
Grix was good for us last year, but I don’t think Chester got the rotation between him and Max right and it felt that Max was been thrown into the deep end a little. Let’s be honest going from playing at Oxford to super league is a bit of a leap by any standard.

'minus the howlers he's class'

One mistake in a season that cost us a game, what about all the stuff that won us games.

Players who don't make mistakes aren't trying.

I don't think you can rotate F/B in the way you can with the forwards tbh. It's just a fact that bar a couple of games mid season Grix form has meant he's remained first choice. Bad luck for Max and TBH I don't suppose CC ever expected it to be so cut and dried.

He's made a couple of bad mistakes but his contribution to the team is massive

So yes other than that, yes he is a class fb

I note you are quick to jump at grix there but don't take me up on picking a better full back at trin the the last 15 years

Howlers suggest more than one, other than the well documented one against Saint's how many more can you remember?